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Purdue Cytometry Mail List, ISAC CONGRESS 2008, VERITY SOFTWAREHOUSE, BUG, GLIIFCA, MyCyte.org, Tree star Inc. NIH, J PAUL ROBINSON. Why isthe PURDUE CYTOMETRY MAIL LIST the ONLY***UNIVERSITY***MAIL LIST ON ISAC? WHYWOULD J PAUL ROBINSON PRESIDENT O
(previously known as Boston Users Group for Cytometry -BUG) ... C. Bruce Bagwell, MD, Ph.D. - Verity Software House http://www.vsh.com/ ... www.bostoncytometry.org/NEChomepage.html - 16k - Cached - Similar pages MyCytometry ISAC Purdue Cytometry List GLIIFCA. MyCyte.org is sponsored by Tree Star, Inc. 340 A St. Ashland OR 97520 Phone: (541) 201-0022 Fax: (541) 482-3153. www.flowcyte.com/ - 17k - Cached - Similar pages ISAC Homepage - ISAC E-NEWS -- December 2004 j...@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu. Current Protocols in Cytometry (CPC) is published in affiliation ... Royalties from sales of CPC come directly back to ISAC. ... www.isac-net.org/content/view/249/119/ - 48k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this Molecular Expressions Microscopy Primer: University and Government ... Software is available to enable a variety of image enhancement and ... Purdue University Cytometry Laboratories (Purdue University) - This website provides ... micro.magnet.fsu.edu/primer/resources/facilities.html - 61k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this http://mycyte.org/content/view/112/108/ NIH is an Equal Opportunity Employer. WHY IS THE PURDUE CYTOMETRY MAIL LIST LINK HERE TOO? The University of Calgary Flow Cytometry Core Facility - Resources Boston User's Group for Cytometry ¡¤ The Clinical Cytometry Society ... Links ***ociated with flow cytometry research and related information. ... www.flowlab.ucalgary.ca/flowlab/resources.htm - 25k - Cached - Similar pages UM***/Amherst Flow Cytometry Facility International Flow Cytometry Resources. Boston Flow Cytometry User's Group BUG, a wealth of useful information, local, national and international. ... www.bio.um***.edu/mcbfacs/flowhome.html - 4k - Cached - Similar pages Professional Organizations BUG Boston Users Group http://www.bostoncytometry.org/. - Cascade Cytometry User's Group Allen Kachelmeier at kache...@ohsu.edu ... http://www.flocyte.com/FRTP/Resource...anizations.htm - 23k - Cached - Similar pages Purdue Cytometry Mailing List: More BUG info Hello, I have been asked to clarify that the fee for the Boston User Group meeting on May 25 1995 includes dinner, drinks are extra. Thanks. Peter Lopez ... www.cyto.purdue.edu/hmarchiv/1995/0654.htm - 4k - Cached - Similar pages ISAC XXII International Congress FlowJo software. Data showed optimal sensitivity was achieved using PBMCs ...... CYTOMETRY: PURDUE UNIVERSITY. CYTOMETRY LABORATORIES. J. Paul Robinson ... doi.wiley.com/10.1002/cyto.a.20046.abs - Similar pages - Note this Welcome to Flow Cytometry Core Facility FlowJo Kinetics Tutorial. ¡ô FlowJo Software Reference Manuals: ... Purdue flow cytometry. Technical Center for those using secondary and tertiary ... www.aecom.yu.edu/facs/ProtocolsLinks.html - 12k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this Flow Links - 9 visits - Mar 3 FlowJo Flojo help manual guide lesson help. ... J. Paul Robinson Gives WikiPedia an "A" OK, the main Flow Cytometry entry got an A, but Dr. Robinson felt ... www.flowjo.com/home/links.html - 22k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this Fluorescence Compensation Jennifer Wilshire, PhD jenni...@flowjo.com MetroFlow Meeting, Princeton, NJ .... Purdue Cytometry Mailing list - http://www.cyto.purdue.edu. Practical Flow ... http://www.metroflow.org/archive/200...r_Wilshire.htm - 39k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this http://www.healthsystem.virginia.edu...rms/FlowJo.cfm FlowJo Site License Registration Form Complete the form below to access the University of Virginia's Site License for FlowJo data analysis software. All fields with * must be completed or your registration will not be processed. Once your information has been received and verified you will receive a serial number which you must enter in FlowJo on the computer whose hardware address you provided. Cost per user license will be determined at the end of the year depending on the average number of registered users for the year. (See instructions for pricing structure) This amount will be billed to the PTAO provided below, so please make sure the PTAO you provide does not expire before that time. Completion of this registration form is a valid request for services and ***umes the approval of the Principal Investigator of the PTAO account provided. Contact Joanne Lannigan joannelanni...@virginia.edu with questions. Flow Links - 9 visits - Mar 3 FlowJo Flojo help manual guide lesson help. ... in Flow Cytometry - Los Alamos. Purdue University Cytometry Laboratories * 2005 Mail List, Thread Sort ... www.flowjo.com/home/links.html - 22k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this Purdue Cytometry Mailing List: RE: Nonreadable FCS 3 files from From : J. Paul Robinson <j...@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu> ... We are currently working on adding the support of these files in the Windows > version of FlowJo, ... www.cyto.purdue.edu/hmarchiv/2004/1020.htm - 9k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this Purdue Cytometry Mailing List: Re: Nonreadable FCS 3 files from From : J. Paul Robinson <j...@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu> ... For data analysis we want to > use a centraly designed templates made in Flow Jo software. ... www.cyto.purdue.edu/hmarchiv/2004/0997.htm - 8k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this The Science Advisory Board - Protocols, Product Reviews, Member ... - 48 visits - Mar 3 Flow Cytometry: A Brief Introduction and Guide to On-Line Resources ... Dr. J. Paul Robinson, Purdue University School of Veterinary Medicine, ... http://www.scienceboard.net/communit...tives.169.html - 30k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this Useful Links & Resources - Flow Cytometry Site General. Purdue University Cytometry Labs (J. Paul Robinson) ... Software. FlowJo. http://flowjo.com/. FACSPress and FACS***istant. http://www.fcspress.com/ ... idi.harvard.edu/content/facilities/cytometry/website/pages/links.html - 42k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this Meeting 2007 J Paul Robinson (Purdue University, USA). Multicolour Flow Cytometry ... Cytek Development, Distrilab, FlowJo, Guava Technologies, Invitrogen, ... www.flowcytometryuk.org/fliers/Annual1.html - 8k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this Unitat de Citometria - Llibreria J.Paul Robinson ISBN 0-471-59634-5 Wiley-Liss 1993 Flow Cytometry in Clinical Diagnosis ... Blog dedicat al programa FlowJo; Maeckerlab Weblog. ... citometria.germanstrias.org/cat/llibreria.htm - 13k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this [PDF] Tree Star File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML We report the use of flow cytometry to measure fluorescence ...... J. Paul Robinson. j...@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu. Philip Marder. phil.mar...@lilly.com ... www.gliifca.org/pdf/GLIIFCA-2004.pdf - Similar pages - Note this [PDF] GLIIFCA15 File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML Todd Lary (4), and J. Paul Robinson (1). (1) Purdue University Cytometry Laboratories, ..... Acquired data was subsequently analyzed using FlowJo (Treestar, ... www.gliifca.org/pdf/GLIIFCA15Program.pdf - Similar pages - Note this PPT] Hons lecture 2005 File Format: Microsoft Powerpoint - View as HTML 2002 J.Paul Robinson, Purdue University. Stokes Shift .... Flowjo. WinMDI. Analysis software. Flow Cytometry on the web e.g., ... web.uct.ac.za/depts/biomed/burger.PPT - Similar pages - Note this [PDF] THURSDAY, MARCH 16, 2006 File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML New Applications in Particle Analysis Using Concurrent Flow Cytometry and ..... JO, University of Memphis, Gija Geme, Lucy J Thurston, Angela L Howard, ... http://www.pittcon.org/archive/2006/...0AM%20Program%... - Similar pages - Note this Unidad de Citometr¨ªa - Librer¨ªa - [ Translate this page ] Blog dedicado al programa FlowJo; Maeckerlab Weblog. ... J.Paul Robinson ISBN 0-471-59634-5 Wiley-Liss 1993 Flow Cytometry in Clinical Diagnosis ... citometria.germanstrias.org/cast/libreria.htm - 12k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this Purdue Cytometry Mailing List: FlowJo and CellQuest (was RE: OS9 I touch the flow cytometer while it collects all my data AND I always use FlowJo for my analysis. No, FlowJo is not a solution for acquisiton but again I ... www.cyto.purdue.edu/hmarchiv/2000/0775.htm - 9k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this Purdue Cytometry Mailing List: Flow Jo for PC Dear All Am I correct in thinking that there is a PC version of Flow Jo coming out soon? Best wishes Simon Watson Phagocyte Lab MRC Centre for Inflammation ... www.cyto.purdue.edu/hmarchiv/2002/0944.htm - 5k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this More results from www.cyto.purdue.edu >> Purdue Cytometry Mail List ISAC FlowJo I hope you will excuse a ... Message from discussion Purdue Cytometry Mail List ISAC FlowJo I hope you will excuse a Bunch of blatantly Commercial Annoucements to the list, but Indulge ... Re: FlowJo From: Carmen Raventos-Suarez (carmen.raventossua...@bms.com) Date: Thu Jun 21 2001 - 16:49:26 EST * Next message: Phil Marder: "Re: FlowJo" * Previous message: Emmanuel Gustin: "Re: power meter" * In reply to: Manfra, Denise: "FlowJo" * Next in thread: Phil Marder: "Re: FlowJo" * Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] [ attachment ] Denise and everybody else interested in Flow Jo: I have been using Flow Jo for a year and my requirements are very much like yours. I also do a lot of DNA analysis, apoptosis and proliferation ***ays. We just use the Fl-1, Fl-2, etc. as defaults. That way we can run different set of samples using several different markers with the same dye at a single run. Later in the analysis we add to the plots the specific name of the markers. It is fast and efficient, I definitely love it, my analysis time has been cut down in an exponential way. You create a template and can drop buckets of samples in it to be analyzed in no time. This includes time for you to view every single plot in a movie sequence to be sure that all your gates are correct. Still if you have cells from different origins and need to correct gates, this can be done for the individual samples that require correction leaving the rest untouchable. And the results on excel are at your finger tips customized by your needs in a couple of c****s. I will never forget all the macros I needed to built to create individual excel tables from cell quest. I fewer words, as I told BD who where the ones who introduce me to Flow Jo: "Flow Jo is like to live in the future and there is no way you want to return to the past". Carmen - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - "Manfra, Denise" wrote: > Hi: > I wanted some feedback on the FLOW Jo application. I > currently do all of my analysis with CellQuest. I am wondering if FLOW Jo > may expedite my analysis. However, I do not use the same markers all the > time, and in one experiment I may be running more than one stain with > multiple different antibodies. Basically, very seldom do I run the same set > of markers. How does FLOW Jo work for such conditions?? How about plot > analysis and excel: apparently Excell FLOW Jo puts the data directly into > EXcell?? What has been your experience with FLOW Jo?? Any information would > be useful. > denise > ************************************************** ************* > This message and any attachments is solely for the intended recipient. If > you are not the intended recipient, disclosure, copying, use, or > distribution of the information included in this message is prohibited -- > please immediately and permanently delete this message. * text/x-vcard attachment: Card for Carmen Raventos-Suarez * Next message: Phil Marder: "Re: FlowJo" * Previous message: Emmanuel Gustin: "Re: power meter" * In reply to: Manfra, Denise: "FlowJo" * Next in thread: Phil Marder: "Re: FlowJo" * Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] [ attachment ] This archive was generated by hypermail 2.1.6 : Thu Jan 01 2004 - 17:40:22 EST FACS Flow Cytometry Facility Cytometry Users E-mail archive (easily searchable): http://www.cyto.purdue.edu/hmarchiv/cytomail.htm. Flow cytometry analysis software: FACS Core Facility ... www.immunology.utoronto.ca/CellSorter.htm - 24k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this FACS Flow Cytometry Facility Cytometry Users E-mail archive (easily searchable): http://www.cyto.purdue.edu/hmarchiv/cytomail.htm. Flow cytometry analysis software: FACS Core Facility ... www.immunology.utoronto.ca/CellSorter.htm - 24k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this The Daily Dongle: Science Rant about FlowJo's goings-on. ... This post from the Cytometry Mailing list answers a question I got earlier today:. Scale (linear) Value = f * 10^ [(C ... flowjo.typepad.com/the_daily_dongle/science/index.html - 27k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this The Daily Dongle: I saw this question on Purdue mailing list earlier today. 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Members of Congress have told us that they are not hearing from researchers in the community. We must turn this around. Members and their staffs are receptive to hearing from researchers about how the proposed FY 2008 budget will affect their research and their careers. Please contact your Representative either in person at a local Independence Day event or by telephone before July 9th. Tell them your story and let them know that they must make cancer and biomedical research funding a national priority. In your contact with your Representative, please mention any of the research challenges you are facing at this time, for example: - denials or delays in getting grant funding for meritorious research -the impact of cuts to grants already funded -staffing and equipment shortages -the loss of bright young investigators to other fields -reduced opportunities for patients to get on therapeutic clinical trials -cancellation or halting of important clinical trials. In short, your Representative needs to hear about the serious effect these low budgets are having on your research progress. Urge them to make cancer research funding a national priority. A few minutes of your time could help get NIH and NCI funding back on track. Thank you for responding to this request and have an enjoyable holiday. William N. Hait, M.D., Ph.D., President William G. Nelson V, M.D., Ph.D., Chair, Science Policy & Legislative Affairs Committee Margaret Foti, Ph.D., M.D. (h.c.), Chief Executive Officer P.S. Please let AACR know you have made a contact with your Representative by sending us a quick e-mail at legaffa...@aacr.org. Just write: "I have contacted Representative X in person/by phone." June 29, 2007 in Current Affairs | Permalink | Comments (0) June 27, 2007 http://flowjo.typepad.com/the_daily_.../06/index.html ************************************************** *************************-- ********************************************* Re: mr on Apple web site * This message: [ Message body ] [ More options ] * Related messages: [ Next message ] [ Previous message ] [ In reply to ] [ Next in thread ] [ Replies ] From: Howard Shapiro <h...@shapirolab.com> Date: Wed Aug 25 2004 - 18:15:38 EST Robin Barclay wrote: >Well .... some of us PC afficianados hate Macs just as much - personally I >have hated them since they first made it difficult to access their DOS and >write programs in any language (especially for accessing/controlling lab >apparatus) - back in the '70's when there were several different options - >not just PC's. I am glad that the "PC" became a standard (there were too >many diferent systems) and that IBM did not hang on to it the way Apple kept >the Mac in house (you get more for your money with a PC because many >different people make them). You don't often get PC people knocking Macs >the way that the Mac people knock PCs - there seems to be a lot of Microsoft >paranoia. In my opinion PCs are much more common and versatile in labs than >Macs - especially outside the USA - and will eventually become the standard >for interfacing with lab equipment..... and they can "look cool" if you shop >around for the right case if that's important to you. I can't p*** up the opportunity to get into the PC/Mac battle - I hate them both, but there aren't really alternatives (yes, I know, there's Linux, but it's probably even harder to hook up a Linux system to hardware than it is to hook a Mac up to hardware). Of course, what started this thread was the ***ertion in the piece about Mario on Apple's web site that there were 15,000 to 20,000 Mac-based flow cytometers out there. The best estimates I had from industry people in early 2003 when I was finishing up the 4th Edition of PFC was that the total number of systems from all manufacturers in use was under 20,000. If that's correct, BD would need a 75% market share to account for the low end estimate of 15,000 Mac-based machines. I'd be interested to know where the 15,000 to 20,000 figure came from. The old (68000 series and possibly early PowerPC) Macs were difficult, but not impossible to connect to hardware; it was easier to work with the PC's ISA bus, which, while slow, was perfectly adequate to do most flow cytometric data acquisition and analysis. There were decent versions of Forth, which was one of the first and best languages designed for controlling hardware from mini- and microcomputers, for both PC (DOS) and the Mac (Forth was the first Mac programming language made commercially available, at a time when the only other option was buying the very expensive Lisa from Apple on which to develop Mac software). I found MacForth easier to program with than the Windows Forths (or other Windows languages, e.g., Delphi), but my old Macs used to crash all the time. So what makes me unhappy with both Windows [and Windows machines] and the Mac in their current incarnations? It is now significantly harder for mere mortals to write software to get hardware to communicate with either PCs or Macs; the gain in complexity ***ociated with the PCI bus, USB/USB2, FireWire(IEEE 1394), etc. is greater than the gain in speed and convenience. Also, in making the operating systems more stable (and Win XP, despite its security issues, is almost as stable as Mac's Unix-based OS X), both Microsoft and Apple elected to eliminate the ability of their computer hardware to respond rapidly to interrupts (latencies are now in the tens of thousands of instruction cycles), meaning that any really fast hardware attachment for either a PC or a Mac now needs to have a DSP in it, whereas if the fast interrupt response had been preserved, the hardware attachments could have been made much simpler and cheaper. Linux also takes fast interrupt response off the table, so it doesn't represent a viable alternative. If you go to Apple's web site and look at what data acquisition hardware is available for Macs, particularly for Macs running OS X, there isn't much, and many of the companies that supported the Mac in that area have dropped Mac support for their newer products. That is undoubtedly one big reason why BD's newer digital pulse processing cytometers are running on the PC platform. That doesn't stop anybody from analyzing FCS files on Macs. FlowJo is well-conceived flow cytometry software; one reason it is as good as it is is that it was written by people who do a lot of flow cytometry, and cutting edge flow cytometry at that. But there are other people who do a lot of good flow cytometry who have written good software, for PCs as well as for Macs. For the record, I have a G4 PowerBook, which I use mostly for the iLife applications, which are s****. It doesn't crash more than once every couple of months, but the same is true of my Windows 2000 and XP systems. OS X can be as infuriating as Windows when one or another aspect of it goes counter to your intuition or to what you have gotten used to. Macs, while somewhat more expensive, are much better made than many PCs, and they are certainly aesthetically pleasing. If there were a reasonable alternative to Microsoft's Office applications for the Mac, I might consider switching. The 12.1" PowerBook is a nice portable, but it's over a pound heavier than the Fujitsu laptop I now use, which has pretty much the same speed, memory, and drive capabilities (OK, not DVD-R, but I don't burn a lot of DVDs). However, I really wish Apple had stuck with the plan they had a few years back of writing a Mac operating system for Intel hardware. I think that died when Microsoft bailed Apple out with a few hundred mil. If it were possible to run OS X and XP mano a mano on the same hardware, there'd be a more rational basis for comparison. But, as may be the case for the November election, minds, once made up, are not easily changed. -Howard Received on Thu Aug 26 16:38:00 2004 * This message: [ Message body ] * Next message: Konz, Richard: "Discrimination of GO/G1" * Previous message: Ann Atzberger: "RE: optimum concentration for sorting" * In reply to: Robin Barclay: "Re: mr on Apple web site" * Next in thread: Robert C. Leif: "RE: mr on Apple web site" * Reply: Robert C. Leif: "RE: mr on Apple web site" * Contemporary messages sorted: [ By Date ] [ By Thread ] [ By Subject ] [ By Author ] [ By messages with attachments ] This archive was generated by hypermail 2.1.8 : Sat Aug 28 2004 - 03:12:06 EST ************************************************** *************************-- ************************************************* Re: mr on Apple web site * This message: [ Message body <http://www.cyto.purdue.edu/ hmarchiv/ 2004/1485.htm> ] [ More options <http://www.cyto.purdue.edu/hmarchiv/ 2004/1485.htm> ] * Related messages: [ Next message <http://www.cyto.purdue.edu/ hmarchiv/2004/1486.htm> ] [ Previous message <http:// www.cyto.purdue.edu/hmarchiv/2004/1484.htm> ] [ In reply to <http://www.cyto.purdue.edu/hmarchiv/2004/1473.htm> ] [ Next in thread <http://www.cyto.purdue.edu/hmarchiv/2004/1503.htm> ] [ Replies <http://www.cyto.purdue.edu/hmarchiv/2004/1485.htm> ] From: Howard Shapiro <h...@shapirolab.com <mailto:h...@shapirolab.com? subject=Re:%20mr%20on%20Apple%20web%20site>> Date: Wed Aug 25 2004 - 18:15:38 EST Robin Barclay wrote: >Well .... some of us PC afficianados hate Macs just as much - personally I >have hated them since they first made it difficult to access their DOS and >write programs in any language (especially for accessing/controlling lab >apparatus) - back in the '70's when there were several different options - >not just PC's. I am glad that the "PC" became a standard (there were too >many diferent systems) and that IBM did not hang on to it the way Apple kept >the Mac in house (you get more for your money with a PC because many >different people make them). You don't often get PC people knocking Macs >the way that the Mac people knock PCs - there seems to be a lot of Microsoft >paranoia. In my opinion PCs are much more common and versatile in labs than >Macs - especially outside the USA - and will eventually become the standard >for interfacing with lab equipment..... and they can "look cool" if you shop >around for the right case if that's important to you. I can't p*** up the opportunity to get into the PC/Mac battle - I hate them both, but there aren't really alternatives (yes, I know, there's Linux, but it's probably even harder to hook up a Linux system to hardware than it is to hook a Mac up to hardware). Of course, what started this thread was the ***ertion in the piece about Mario on Apple's web site that there were 15,000 to 20,000 Mac-based flow cytometers out there. The best estimates I had from industry people in early 2003 when I was finishing up the 4th Edition of PFC was that the total number of systems from all manufacturers in use was under 20,000. If that's correct, BD would need a 75% market share to account for the low end estimate of 15,000 Mac-based machines. I'd be interested to know where the 15,000 to 20,000 figure came from. The old (68000 series and possibly early PowerPC) Macs were difficult, but not impossible to connect to hardware; it was easier to work with the PC's ISA bus, which, while slow, was perfectly adequate to do most flow cytometric data acquisition and analysis. There were decent versions of Forth, which was one of the first and best languages designed for controlling hardware from mini- and microcomputers, for both PC (DOS) and the Mac (Forth was the first Mac programming language made commercially available, at a time when the only other option was buying the very expensive Lisa from Apple on which to develop Mac software). I found MacForth easier to program with than the Windows Forths (or other Windows languages, e.g., Delphi), but my old Macs used to crash all the time. So what makes me unhappy with both Windows [and Windows machines] and the Mac in their current incarnations? It is now significantly harder for mere mortals to write software to get hardware to communicate with either PCs or Macs; the gain in complexity ***ociated with the PCI bus, USB/USB2, FireWire(IEEE 1394), etc. is greater than the gain in speed and convenience. Also, in making the operating systems more stable (and Win XP, despite its security issues, is almost as stable as Mac's Unix-based OS X), both Microsoft and Apple elected to eliminate the ability of their computer hardware to respond rapidly to interrupts (latencies are now in the tens of thousands of instruction cycles), meaning that any really fast hardware attachment for either a PC or a Mac now needs to have a DSP in it, whereas if the fast interrupt response had been preserved, the hardware attachments could have been made much simpler and cheaper. Linux also takes fast interrupt response off the table, so it doesn't represent a viable alternative. If you go to Apple's web site and look at what data acquisition hardware is available for Macs, particularly for Macs running OS X, there isn't much, and many of the companies that supported the Mac in that area have dropped Mac support for their newer products. That is undoubtedly one big reason why BD's newer digital pulse processing cytometers are running on the PC platform. That doesn't stop anybody from analyzing FCS files on Macs. FlowJo is well-conceived flow cytometry software; one reason it is as good as it is is that it was written by people who do a lot of flow cytometry, and cutting edge flow cytometry at that. But there are other people who do a lot of good flow cytometry who have written good software, for PCs as well as for Macs. For the record, I have a G4 PowerBook, which I use mostly for the iLife applications, which are s****. It doesn't crash more than once every couple of months, but the same is true of my Windows 2000 and XP systems. OS X can be as infuriating as Windows when one or another aspect of it goes counter to your intuition or to what you have gotten used to. Macs, while somewhat more expensive, are much better made than many PCs, and they are certainly aesthetically pleasing. If there were a reasonable alternative to Microsoft's Office applications for the Mac, I might consider switching. The 12.1" PowerBook is a nice portable, but it's over a pound heavier than the Fujitsu laptop I now use, which has pretty much the same speed, memory, and drive capabilities (OK, not DVD-R, but I don't burn a lot of DVDs). However, I really wish Apple had stuck with the plan they had a few years back of writing a Mac operating system for Intel hardware. I think that died when Microsoft bailed Apple out with a few hundred mil. If it were possible to run OS X and XP mano a mano on the same hardware, there'd be a more rational basis for comparison. But, as may be the case for the November election, minds, once made up, are not easily changed. -Howard Received on Thu Aug 26 16:38:00 2004 * This message: [ Message body <http://www.cyto.purdue.edu/ hmarchiv/ 2004/1485.htm> ] * Next message: Konz, Richard: "Discrimination of GO/G1" <http:// www.cyto.purdue.edu/hmarchiv/2004/1486.htm> * Previous message: Ann Atzberger: "RE: optimum concentration for sorting" <http://www.cyto.purdue.edu/hmarchiv/2004/1484.htm> * In reply to: Robin Barclay: "Re: mr on Apple web site" <http:// www.cyto.purdue.edu/hmarchiv/2004/1473.htm> * Next in thread: Robert C. Leif: "RE: mr on Apple web site" <http:// www.cyto.purdue.edu/hmarchiv/2004/1503.htm> * Reply: Robert C. Leif: "RE: mr on Apple web site" <http:// www.cyto.purdue.edu/hmarchiv/2004/1503.htm> * Contemporary messages sorted: [ By Date <http:// www.cyto.purdue.edu/ hmarchiv/2004/index.htm> ] [ By Thread <http://www.cyto.purdue.edu/ hmarchiv/2004/thread.htm> ] [ By Subject <http://www.cyto.purdue.edu/hmarchiv/2004/subject.htm> ] [ By Author <http://www.cyto.purdue.edu/hmarchiv/2004/author.htm> ] [ By messages with attachments <http://www.cyto.purdue.edu/hmarchiv/2004/attachment.htm> ] This archive was generated by hypermail 2.1.8 <http:// www.hypermail.org/> : Sat Aug 28 2004 - 03:12:06 EST ************************************************** *************************-- ************************************************** ***** RE: mr on Apple web site * This message: [ Message body ] [ More options ] * Related messages: [ Next message ] [ Previous message ] [ Maybe in reply to ] From: Fischer, Randy (NIH/NIAMS) <fisch...@mail.nih.gov> Date: Mon Aug 23 2004 - 16:18:55 EST Paul, I know that for a long time, anyone who used a BD flow cytometer had little choice but to use a MAC-data acquisition required it. And, one of the best third party software packages was FlowJo which only ran on a MAC. Mario, being a FlowJock, naturally was heavily exposed to this atmosphere. However, most of our other laboratory instrumentation appears to run on the IBM clone type of PC-ELISA reader, luminometer, ELISpot reader, and AFFYMETRIX machine to name the first ones that come to mind. Of course, because Flow is such a key component and FlowJo works so well, we have MACs (and ***ociated cinema displays) at all of our desks. So, Mario is probably pretty close as I guess we now run about 50% MAC, and for most things they do run better than our PCs for similar applications, but mostly the two platforms tend to be used for very disparate applications and we need both. Wish more science companies would move to MAC, but as Microsoft probably owns a minority share in most companies, that will not likely happen in our lifetimes. Haven't read the article yet, but hopefully Mario remembered to cite you for all the work on the Flow website/mailing list. Randy T. Fischer NIH/NIAMS Building 10, Room 6D50 9000 Rockville Pike Bethesda, MD 20892 (301) 594-3537 fisch...@mail.nih.gov ISAC Purdue Cytometry List GLIIFCA. MyCyte.org is sponsored by Tree Star, Inc. http://mycyte.org/content/view/93/103/ PURDUE CYTOMETRY MAIL LIST I have some strong words to end the year and I am going to say them!! Of course you don t have to read them! Cytometry is now 40 years old and it s been sort of decaying a bit. What do I mean? I am amazed at how conservative and frankly boring the field has become. Why? Wake up people - times are changing - look at all these new small companies trying to stick their noses in "our" field! Wake up people - times are changing - look at all these new small companies trying to stick their noses in "our" field! 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For data analysis we want to > use a centraly designed templates made in Flow Jo software. ... www.cyto.purdue.edu/hmarchiv/2004/0997.htm - 8k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this The Science Advisory Board - Protocols, Product Reviews, Member ... - 48 visits - Mar 3 Flow Cytometry: A Brief Introduction and Guide to On-Line Resources ... Dr. J. Paul Robinson, Purdue University School of Veterinary Medicine, ... http://www.scienceboard.net/communit...tives.169.html - 30k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this Useful Links & Resources - Flow Cytometry Site General. Purdue University Cytometry Labs (J. Paul Robinson) ... Software. FlowJo. http://flowjo.com/. FACSPress and FACS***istant. http://www.fcspress.com/ ... idi.harvard.edu/content/facilities/cytometry/website/pages/links.html - 42k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this Meeting 2007 J Paul Robinson (Purdue University, USA). Multicolour Flow Cytometry ... Cytek Development, Distrilab, FlowJo, Guava Technologies, Invitrogen, ... www.flowcytometryuk.org/fliers/Annual1.html - 8k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this Unitat de Citometria - Llibreria J.Paul Robinson ISBN 0-471-59634-5 Wiley-Liss 1993 Flow Cytometry in Clinical Diagnosis ... Blog dedicat al programa FlowJo; Maeckerlab Weblog. ... citometria.germanstrias.org/cat/llibreria.htm - 13k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this [PDF] Tree Star File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML We report the use of flow cytometry to measure fluorescence ...... J. Paul Robinson. j...@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu. Philip Marder. phil.mar...@lilly.com ... www.gliifca.org/pdf/GLIIFCA-2004.pdf - Similar pages - Note this [PDF] GLIIFCA15 File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML Todd Lary (4), and J. Paul Robinson (1). (1) Purdue University Cytometry Laboratories, ..... Acquired data was subsequently analyzed using FlowJo (Treestar, ... www.gliifca.org/pdf/GLIIFCA15Program.pdf - Similar pages - Note this PPT] Hons lecture 2005 File Format: Microsoft Powerpoint - View as HTML 2002 J.Paul Robinson, Purdue University. Stokes Shift .... Flowjo. WinMDI. Analysis software. Flow Cytometry on the web e.g., ... web.uct.ac.za/depts/biomed/burger.PPT - Similar pages - Note this [PDF] THURSDAY, MARCH 16, 2006 File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML New Applications in Particle Analysis Using Concurrent Flow Cytometry and ..... JO, University of Memphis, Gija Geme, Lucy J Thurston, Angela L Howard, ... http://www.pittcon.org/archive/2006/...0AM%20Program%... - Similar pages - Note this Unidad de Citometr¨ªa - Librer¨ªa - [ Translate this page ] Blog dedicado al programa FlowJo; Maeckerlab Weblog. ... 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Message from discussion Purdue Cytometry Mail List ISAC FlowJo I hope you will excuse a Bunch of blatantly Commercial Annoucements to the list, but Indulge ... Re: FlowJo From: Carmen Raventos-Suarez (carmen.raventossua...@bms.com) Date: Thu Jun 21 2001 - 16:49:26 EST * Next message: Phil Marder: "Re: FlowJo" * Previous message: Emmanuel Gustin: "Re: power meter" * In reply to: Manfra, Denise: "FlowJo" * Next in thread: Phil Marder: "Re: FlowJo" * Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] [ attachment ] Denise and everybody else interested in Flow Jo: I have been using Flow Jo for a year and my requirements are very much like yours. I also do a lot of DNA analysis, apoptosis and proliferation ***ays. We just use the Fl-1, Fl-2, etc. as defaults. That way we can run different set of samples using several different markers with the same dye at a single run. Later in the analysis we add to the plots the specific name of the markers. It is fast and efficient, I definitely love it, my analysis time has been cut down in an exponential way. You create a template and can drop buckets of samples in it to be analyzed in no time. This includes time for you to view every single plot in a movie sequence to be sure that all your gates are correct. Still if you have cells from different origins and need to correct gates, this can be done for the individual samples that require correction leaving the rest untouchable. And the results on excel are at your finger tips customized by your needs in a couple of c****s. I will never forget all the macros I needed to built to create individual excel tables from cell quest. I fewer words, as I told BD who where the ones who introduce me to Flow Jo: "Flow Jo is like to live in the future and there is no way you want to return to the past". Carmen - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - "Manfra, Denise" wrote: > Hi: > I wanted some feedback on the FLOW Jo application. I > currently do all of my analysis with CellQuest. I am wondering if FLOW Jo > may expedite my analysis. However, I do not use the same markers all the > time, and in one experiment I may be running more than one stain with > multiple different antibodies. Basically, very seldom do I run the same set > of markers. How does FLOW Jo work for such conditions?? How about plot > analysis and excel: apparently Excell FLOW Jo puts the data directly into > EXcell?? What has been your experience with FLOW Jo?? Any information would > be useful. > denise > ************************************************** ************* > This message and any attachments is solely for the intended recipient. If > you are not the intended recipient, disclosure, copying, use, or > distribution of the information included in this message is prohibited -- > please immediately and permanently delete this message. * text/x-vcard attachment: Card for Carmen Raventos-Suarez * Next message: Phil Marder: "Re: FlowJo" * Previous message: Emmanuel Gustin: "Re: power meter" * In reply to: Manfra, Denise: "FlowJo" * Next in thread: Phil Marder: "Re: FlowJo" * Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] [ attachment ] This archive was generated by hypermail 2.1.6 : Thu Jan 01 2004 - 17:40:22 EST FACS Flow Cytometry Facility Cytometry Users E-mail archive (easily searchable): http://www.cyto.purdue.edu/hmarchiv/cytomail.htm. Flow cytometry analysis software: FACS Core Facility ... www.immunology.utoronto.ca/CellSorter.htm - 24k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this FACS Flow Cytometry Facility Cytometry Users E-mail archive (easily searchable): http://www.cyto.purdue.edu/hmarchiv/cytomail.htm. Flow cytometry analysis software: FACS Core Facility ... www.immunology.utoronto.ca/CellSorter.htm - 24k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this The Daily Dongle: Science Rant about FlowJo's goings-on. ... This post from the Cytometry Mailing list answers a question I got earlier today:. Scale (linear) Value = f * 10^ [(C ... flowjo.typepad.com/the_daily_dongle/science/index.html - 27k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this The Daily Dongle: I saw this question on Purdue mailing list earlier today. 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Members of Congress have told us that they are not hearing from researchers in the community. We must turn this around. Members and their staffs are receptive to hearing from researchers about how the proposed FY 2008 budget will affect their research and their careers. Please contact your Representative either in person at a local Independence Day event or by telephone before July 9th. Tell them your story and let them know that they must make cancer and biomedical research funding a national priority. In your contact with your Representative, please mention any of the research challenges you are facing at this time, for example: - denials or delays in getting grant funding for meritorious research -the impact of cuts to grants already funded -staffing and equipment shortages -the loss of bright young investigators to other fields -reduced opportunities for patients to get on therapeutic clinical trials -cancellation or halting of important clinical trials. 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June 29, 2007 in Current Affairs | Permalink | Comments (0) June 27, 2007 http://flowjo.typepad.com/the_daily_.../06/index.html ************************************************** *************************- ********************************************* Re: mr on Apple web site * This message: [ Message body ] [ More options ] * Related messages: [ Next message ] [ Previous message ] [ In reply to ] [ Next in thread ] [ Replies ] From: Howard Shapiro <h...@shapirolab.com> Date: Wed Aug 25 2004 - 18:15:38 EST Robin Barclay wrote: >Well .... some of us PC afficianados hate Macs just as much - personally I >have hated them since they first made it difficult to access their DOS and >write programs in any language (especially for accessing/controlling lab >apparatus) - back in the '70's when there were several different options - >not just PC's. I am glad that the "PC" became a standard (there were too >many diferent systems) and that IBM did not hang on to it the way Apple kept >the Mac in house (you get more for your money with a PC because many >different people make them). You don't often get PC people knocking Macs >the way that the Mac people knock PCs - there seems to be a lot of Microsoft >paranoia. In my opinion PCs are much more common and versatile in labs than >Macs - especially outside the USA - and will eventually become the standard >for interfacing with lab equipment..... and they can "look cool" if you shop >around for the right case if that's important to you. I can't p*** up the opportunity to get into the PC/Mac battle - I hate them both, but there aren't really alternatives (yes, I know, there's Linux, but it's probably even harder to hook up a Linux system to hardware than it is to hook a Mac up to hardware). Of course, what started this thread was the ***ertion in the piece about Mario on Apple's web site that there were 15,000 to 20,000 Mac-based flow cytometers out there. The best estimates I had from industry people in early 2003 when I was finishing up the 4th Edition of PFC was that the total number of systems from all manufacturers in use was under 20,000. If that's correct, BD would need a 75% market share to account for the low end estimate of 15,000 Mac-based machines. I'd be interested to know where the 15,000 to 20,000 figure came from. The old (68000 series and possibly early PowerPC) Macs were difficult, but not impossible to connect to hardware; it was easier to work with the PC's ISA bus, which, while slow, was perfectly adequate to do most flow cytometric data acquisition and analysis. There were decent versions of Forth, which was one of the first and best languages designed for controlling hardware from mini- and microcomputers, for both PC (DOS) and the Mac (Forth was the first Mac programming language made commercially available, at a time when the only other option was buying the very expensive Lisa from Apple on which to develop Mac software). I found MacForth easier to program with than the Windows Forths (or other Windows languages, e.g., Delphi), but my old Macs used to crash all the time. So what makes me unhappy with both Windows [and Windows machines] and the Mac in their current incarnations? It is now significantly harder for mere mortals to write software to get hardware to communicate with either PCs or Macs; the gain in complexity ***ociated with the PCI bus, USB/USB2, FireWire(IEEE 1394), etc. is greater than the gain in speed and convenience. Also, in making the operating systems more stable (and Win XP, despite its security issues, is almost as stable as Mac's Unix-based OS X), both Microsoft and Apple elected to eliminate the ability of their computer hardware to respond rapidly to interrupts (latencies are now in the tens of thousands of instruction cycles), meaning that any really fast hardware attachment for either a PC or a Mac now needs to have a DSP in it, whereas if the fast interrupt response had been preserved, the hardware attachments could have been made much simpler and cheaper. Linux also takes fast interrupt response off the table, so it doesn't represent a viable alternative. If you go to Apple's web site and look at what data acquisition hardware is available for Macs, particularly for Macs running OS X, there isn't much, and many of the companies that supported the Mac in that area have dropped Mac support for their newer products. That is undoubtedly one big reason why BD's newer digital pulse processing cytometers are running on the PC platform. That doesn't stop anybody from analyzing FCS files on Macs. FlowJo is well-conceived flow cytometry software; one reason it is as good as it is is that it was written by people who do a lot of flow cytometry, and cutting edge flow cytometry at that. But there are other people who do a lot of good flow cytometry who have written good software, for PCs as well as for Macs. For the record, I have a G4 PowerBook, which I use mostly for the iLife applications, which are s****. It doesn't crash more than once every couple of months, but the same is true of my Windows 2000 and XP systems. OS X can be as infuriating as Windows when one or another aspect of it goes counter to your intuition or to what you have gotten used to. Macs, while somewhat more expensive, are much better made than many PCs, and they are certainly aesthetically pleasing. If there were a reasonable alternative to Microsoft's Office applications for the Mac, I might consider switching. The 12.1" PowerBook is a nice portable, but it's over a pound heavier than the Fujitsu laptop I now use, which has pretty much the same speed, memory, and drive capabilities (OK, not DVD-R, but I don't burn a lot of DVDs). However, I really wish Apple had stuck with the plan they had a few years back of writing a Mac operating system for Intel hardware. I think that died when Microsoft bailed Apple out with a few hundred mil. If it were possible to run OS X and XP mano a mano on the same hardware, there'd be a more rational basis for comparison. But, as may be the case for the November election, minds, once made up, are not easily changed. -Howard Received on Thu Aug 26 16:38:00 2004 * This message: [ Message body ] * Next message: Konz, Richard: "Discrimination of GO/G1" * Previous message: Ann Atzberger: "RE: optimum concentration for sorting" * In reply to: Robin Barclay: "Re: mr on Apple web site" * Next in thread: Robert C. Leif: "RE: mr on Apple web site" * Reply: Robert C. Leif: "RE: mr on Apple web site" * Contemporary messages sorted: [ By Date ] [ By Thread ] [ By Subject ] [ By Author ] [ By messages with attachments ] This archive was generated by hypermail 2.1.8 : Sat Aug 28 2004 - 03:12:06 EST ************************************************** *************************- ************************************************* Re: mr on Apple web site * This message: [ Message body <http://www.cyto.purdue.edu/ hmarchiv/ 2004/1485.htm> ] [ More options <http://www.cyto.purdue.edu/hmarchiv/ 2004/1485.htm> ] * Related messages: [ Next message <http://www.cyto.purdue.edu/ hmarchiv/2004/1486.htm> ] [ Previous message <http:// www.cyto.purdue.edu/hmarchiv/2004/1484.htm> ] [ In reply to <http://www.cyto.purdue.edu/hmarchiv/2004/1473.htm> ] [ Next in thread <http://www.cyto.purdue.edu/hmarchiv/2004/1503.htm> ] [ Replies <http://www.cyto.purdue.edu/hmarchiv/2004/1485.htm> ] From: Howard Shapiro <h...@shapirolab.com <mailto:h...@shapirolab.com? subject=Re:%20mr%20on%20Apple%20web%20site>> Date: Wed Aug 25 2004 - 18:15:38 EST Robin Barclay wrote: >Well .... some of us PC afficianados hate Macs just as much - personally I >have hated them since they first made it difficult to access their DOS and >write programs in any language (especially for accessing/controlling lab >apparatus) - back in the '70's when there were several different options - >not just PC's. I am glad that the "PC" became a standard (there were too >many diferent systems) and that IBM did not hang on to it the way Apple kept >the Mac in house (you get more for your money with a PC because many >different people make them). You don't often get PC people knocking Macs >the way that the Mac people knock PCs - there seems to be a lot of Microsoft >paranoia. In my opinion PCs are much more common and versatile in labs than >Macs - especially outside the USA - and will eventually become the standard >for interfacing with lab equipment..... and they can "look cool" if you shop >around for the right case if that's important to you. I can't p*** up the opportunity to get into the PC/Mac battle - I hate them both, but there aren't really alternatives (yes, I know, there's Linux, but it's probably even harder to hook up a Linux system to hardware than it is to hook a Mac up to hardware). Of course, what started this thread was the ***ertion in the piece about Mario on Apple's web site that there were 15,000 to 20,000 Mac-based flow cytometers out there. The best estimates I had from industry people in early 2003 when I was finishing up the 4th Edition of PFC was that the total number of systems from all manufacturers in use was under 20,000. If that's correct, BD would need a 75% market share to account for the low end estimate of 15,000 Mac-based machines. I'd be interested to know where the 15,000 to 20,000 figure came from. The old (68000 series and possibly early PowerPC) Macs were difficult, but not impossible to connect to hardware; it was easier to work with the PC's ISA bus, which, while slow, was perfectly adequate to do most flow cytometric data acquisition and analysis. There were decent versions of Forth, which was one of the first and best languages designed for controlling hardware from mini- and microcomputers, for both PC (DOS) and the Mac (Forth was the first Mac programming language made commercially available, at a time when the only other option was buying the very expensive Lisa from Apple on which to develop Mac software). I found MacForth easier to program with than the Windows Forths (or other Windows languages, e.g., Delphi), but my old Macs used to crash all the time. So what makes me unhappy with both Windows [and Windows machines] and the Mac in their current incarnations? It is now significantly harder for mere mortals to write software to get hardware to communicate with either PCs or Macs; the gain in complexity ***ociated with the PCI bus, USB/USB2, FireWire(IEEE 1394), etc. is greater than the gain in speed and convenience. Also, in making the operating systems more stable (and Win XP, despite its security issues, is almost as stable as Mac's Unix-based OS X), both Microsoft and Apple elected to eliminate the ability of their computer hardware to respond rapidly to interrupts (latencies are now in the tens of thousands of instruction cycles), meaning that any really fast hardware attachment for either a PC or a Mac now needs to have a DSP in it, whereas if the fast interrupt response had been preserved, the hardware attachments could have been made much simpler and cheaper. Linux also takes fast interrupt response off the table, so it doesn't represent a viable alternative. If you go to Apple's web site and look at what data acquisition hardware is available for Macs, particularly for Macs running OS X, there isn't much, and many of the companies that supported the Mac in that area have dropped Mac support for their newer products. That is undoubtedly one big reason why BD's newer digital pulse processing cytometers are running on the PC platform. That doesn't stop anybody from analyzing FCS files on Macs. FlowJo is well-conceived flow cytometry software; one reason it is as good as it is is that it was written by people who do a lot of flow cytometry, and cutting edge flow cytometry at that. But there are other people who do a lot of good flow cytometry who have written good software, for PCs as well as for Macs. For the record, I have a G4 PowerBook, which I use mostly for the iLife applications, which are s****. It doesn't crash more than once every couple of months, but the same is true of my Windows 2000 and XP systems. OS X can be as infuriating as Windows when one or another aspect of it goes counter to your intuition or to what you have gotten used to. Macs, while somewhat more expensive, are much better made than many PCs, and they are certainly aesthetically pleasing. If there were a reasonable alternative to Microsoft's Office applications for the Mac, I might consider switching. The 12.1" PowerBook is a nice portable, but it's over a pound heavier than the Fujitsu laptop I now use, which has pretty much the same speed, memory, and drive capabilities (OK, not DVD-R, but I don't burn a lot of DVDs). However, I really wish Apple had stuck with the plan they had a few years back of writing a Mac operating system for Intel hardware. I think that died when Microsoft bailed Apple out with a few hundred mil. If it were possible to run OS X and XP mano a mano on the same hardware, there'd be a more rational basis for comparison. 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