Various Topics on Alternative Medicine

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Here's a thread from sci med nutrition
"calypso47@voyager.net> wrote in message
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>
> Have not tried it, no one needs to try it. The "mucilaginous
> polysaccharides" of which so much is made and said to be in the caps means
> it is water soluble fiber found in many fruits, grains, beans, etc. and is
> also known as such things as pectin, inulin, food gums, and various other
> substances found widely in the above kinds of foods. The many
> testimonials are next to useless, the only way to measure the disorders in
> question require medical approaches because the symptoms vary so much and
> are very subject to poor subjective self observations. I see this as a
> standard net come on having little to offer with no scientific support.
> The claimed effects for such fibers are known, but if they were to refer
> to that research their claims for the exclusive value for their product
> would be blown because equally valid food based substances are in any
> local grocery store.
>
If you look at the target group that stuff is intended for which are all
subjective and have psychological components then the placebo can be
helpful. Symptom reduction can entail a psychological intervention in the
form of placebos which can be effective. The more money they charge then it
multiplies expectations and the placebo effect. I would charge $200 a bottle
and thus ensure that the person buying it is motivated in having it work. I
would also mention that it is natural and that the pharmaceutical companies
don't want to cure anything so they don't want people to know about a
natural cure that the medical community doesn't want cured. That's a popular
sales pitch that rationalizes and allows people to try it.
Conventional medicine is at it's strongest when it incorporates the
treatment of the person as a whole including ones psyche which need not be
linear or logical.

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Yes all valid intellectual arguments.

But has anyone else out there ACTUALLY TRIED the stuff?


Ship
Shiperton Henethe

..b

My son has been taking it now for many months. Before this, he could
not sustain remission. He is now thriving and has energy and is only
in addtition taking his anti-inflammatory medication which he has
reduced by half. He has not been this well... ever in my opionion and
his. Is it the molocure? Who knows. Will we take him off it to find
out? Hell no. If it is working.. then why mess with it. There are
many of us out here. This has been a topic before. Perhaps the
critics need to put there hand in their pocket and try it first. Then,
when they too are feeling better than they have ever felt and in
remission for longer than they've ever been... decide that it is too
expensive and they will give it up! Can we afford it? No. Molocure
do something about your costs! Please! But between us all the extended
family find the money and my son is well.
ship wrote:
> Hi
>
> I want to hear from anyone who has *ACTUALLY TRIED* the
> (horrendously expensive) "A.M.P. Molo-cure"(www.molocure.com) - for
any
> of these conditions:
>
> a)IBS (Irritable Bowel Syndrome)
>
> b)CFS (Chronic Fatique Syndrome)
>
> c)Reactive Hypoglycemia
>
> d)Thyroid problems
>
> I know the stuff is HORRENDOUSLY expensive, but I read all the
> testimonials (c. 50 pages worth) and found it intriquing...
> And yes $179.00 for a small bottle (270 capsules) that will only last
> you 1 to 3 months *is* expensive.
>
> But thereagain it's a bargain if it does actually work!
>
>
> Ship
> Shiperton Henethe

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Yes but how do you know who has ACTUALLY TRIED it and who is a cleaver
writer/marketer/ shill for moloCURE?
John
"ship" <shiphen@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Yes all valid intellectual arguments.
>
> But has anyone else out there the stuff?
>
>
> Ship
> Shiperton Henethe
>

..b

Well the information must be out there somewhere... closed in X number
of medical records, because my son's consultant has written it up in
his notes. It is the only factor that currently explains the
difference.

..e

Thanks! I can't believe how time flies!

Sdores wrote:

> Glad to hear your daughter is still doing very well. Good luck with
> college! UM MOM Susan

..b

Joe it is great that your daughter is still doing well... and my son
too now. We can only hope that it is the molocure and that it will
continue to do it's stuff on their behalf.

My son is now looking at college - something he couldn't have hoped for
a year ago. He is convinced that the molocure does it... he says he
has never felt better.

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Well I gather they use - cant remember exactly - what is it? ... 18
gallons of aloe vera to make 1 ounce of extract?! Yeah so if true, it's
bound to be expensive.

Unless of course you can synthesise the stuff some other way!
There again, maybe there is something subtle going on an tiny traces of
metabolic pathway incredients wouldnt be the same... who knows?


But as a trains scientist I still say it's a disgrace that the stuff
hasnt been properly tested by somewhere by SOMEONE!!
But no doubt it's all highly political... [deep sigh!]

I stand in the middle here. I am a mug who has been somewhat irrational
(for me) and taken the plunge & bought some of this stuff. But what I
can say is that I definitely think that their (molo-cure's) website is
something of a disgrace. It's stiff with hype and someone needs to lean
on them to make it become more objective/scientific.

But to return to the point - have you guys tried taking less and less
to wean yourself off their (highly expensive) product? I for one hope
the heck I wont be on this stuff (IF it works) for life!


Ship
Shiperton Henethe

..mone20.. ..hoo.c..

ship wrote:
> Well I gather they use - cant remember exactly - what is it? ... 18
> gallons of aloe vera to make 1 ounce of extract?! Yeah so if true,
it's
> bound to be expensive.
>
> Unless of course you can synthesise the stuff some other way!
> There again, maybe there is something subtle going on an tiny traces
of
> metabolic pathway incredients wouldnt be the same... who knows?
>
>
> But as a trains scientist I still say it's a disgrace that the stuff
> hasnt been properly tested by somewhere by SOMEONE!!
> But no doubt it's all highly political... [deep sigh!]

Try
http://www.scirus.com/srsapp/search?...&t=all&sss=jnl

The first abstract is interesting and recent:
"Chemical characterization of the immunomodulating polysaccharide of
Aloe vera L."
Jimmy Tai-Nin Chow / David A Williamson / Kenneth M Yates / Warren J
Goux, Carbohydr Res, May 2005

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Luke