Various Topics on Alternative Medicine

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Hi

I want to hear from anyone who has *ACTUALLY TRIED* the
(horrendously expensive) "A.M.P. Molo-cure"(www.molocure.com) - for any
of these conditions:

a)IBS (Irritable Bowel Syndrome)

b)CFS (Chronic Fatique Syndrome)

c)Reactive Hypoglycemia

d)Thyroid problems

I know the stuff is HORRENDOUSLY expensive, but I read all the
testimonials (c. 50 pages worth) and found it intriquing...
And yes $179.00 for a small bottle (270 capsules) that will only last
you 1 to 3 months *is* expensive.

But thereagain it's a bargain if it does actually work!


Ship
Shiperton Henethe

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Compainies sales staff monitor and take part in neswgroup disscussions .

Our records show that Better than 9 out of 10 individuals who have utilized
Molo-Cure® successfully, have done so by first reading and understanding the
Home Page and ALL the links. In other words, these individuals gained a firm
understanding as to why they should take Molo-Cure®.

Read that again without 'who'
John

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ship wrote:

> Hi
>
> I want to hear from anyone who has *ACTUALLY TRIED* the
> (horrendously expensive) "A.M.P. Molo-cure"(www.molocure.com) - for any
> of these conditions:
>
> a)IBS (Irritable Bowel Syndrome)
>
> b)CFS (Chronic Fatique Syndrome)
>
> c)Reactive Hypoglycemia
>
> d)Thyroid problems
>
> I know the stuff is HORRENDOUSLY expensive, but I read all the
> testimonials (c. 50 pages worth) and found it intriquing...

Who needs clinical trials when you have shills writing those all
important "testimonials".

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This is extremely fair criticism.
Their copy is *m***ively* disingenuos.

If you skim read the copy and think that 9 out of 10 users are
benefitting.
But that is not what they are actually SAYING! They are saying that
reading
the home page helps you understand why you need the product. VERY
fishy.

*But* have you read they Testimonials?
Typos and all. Different styles of writing. All very heart-breaking.
As I sat on the train reading my printouts, I was convinced!
And I take a lot of convincing.

But I was only convinced that this needs to be investigated further,
I was not convinced about buying it. (Not yet...!)

The counter argument is that they *must* be making a lot of money
because they are bidding so highly on Google.

And if there are a LOT of mugs out there... all being ripped off...
then I wanna hear form them!


Ship
Shiperton Henethe

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Agreed. It's a lot cheaper to write testimonials well than
blow $US 100+ Million on clinical trials. Of course.

However the counter argument is that well, who the heck will pay for
the
trials is the d*mned stuff cant be patented, and when no return on
investment is possible?

Ans: Some goverment institution, hopefully.

Ah yes but who actually sits on the boards of such funding boards? -
Why the people making money from medicine of course!
The boys that are in the hands of the pharmaceutical companies
The people that make money out of folks being SICK.
Who makes money out of folks being WELL?

No one rich. No one powerful that's for sure.

Listen I'm no great fan of conspiracy theories. It's more about
intellectual
band-wagons, and people acting out of individual self-interest.


But look, these arguments can go on for ever. I just wanted to hear
from anyone that has TRIED the damned stuff, that's all.

Anything else is a waste of breath.

Surely SOMEONE out there has!


Ship
Shiperton Henethe

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ship wrote:
> Agreed. It's a lot cheaper to write testimonials well than
> blow $US 100+ Million on clinical trials. Of course.
>
> However the counter argument is that well, who the heck will pay for
> the
> trials is the d*mned stuff cant be patented, and when no return on
> investment is possible?

Why can't it be patented? If stuff like this actually p***ed through the
rigors of clinical study the FDA would probably approve it and then it
would be cl***ified like any other drug.

The reason companies like this usually don't attempt that route is
because they know they wouldn't survive the process and they can make
more money selling false hope to desperate patients.


>
> Listen I'm no great fan of conspiracy theories. It's more about
> intellectual
> band-wagons, and people acting out of individual self-interest.
>
>
> But look, these arguments can go on for ever. I just wanted to hear
> from anyone that has TRIED the damned stuff, that's all.
>
> Anything else is a waste of breath.
>
> Surely SOMEONE out there has!
>

Do a google search in alt.support.crohns-colitis and see for yourself.
Remember the placebo effect can often account for the response that some
patients claim to have. In the past I've never been able to find any
credible independent research that says it should work or does.

So yes, pharmaceutical companies are profit-driven like any other
business and they do push hard for their products to be prescribed by
physicians. OTOH the alternative health industry is also motivated by
money, only they don't have to provide any evidence that their products
actually work, and they can make some outrageous claims. That's why one
should be very careful when investigating these types of products.

..e

Hi Ship,
My daughter (UC) has been on it for over a year.....does it work? I
don't know...we are a clinical trial of 1. Is my daughter experiencing
a remission? Yes. Is Molocure expensive? Yes. Is my daughter on any
Rx? No....she no longer takes Prednisone or Asacol (alergic to 5ASA)
Will I continue to purchase Molocure? Yes.

To all....I know I don't post much since there's nothing to say, but
I'm still out there.....my daughter is still doing fine....she will be
off to college next year. Time is really flying! You are all still in
my thoughts and prayers....

Joe

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Glad to hear your daughter is still doing very well. Good luck with
college! UM MOM Susan
"Joe" <joe@covad.net> wrote in message
news:1b63b$42782f4c$428618b2$26533@msgid.meganewss ervers.com...
> Hi Ship,
> My daughter (UC) has been on it for over a year.....does it work? I
> don't know...we are a clinical trial of 1. Is my daughter experiencing a
> remission? Yes. Is Molocure expensive? Yes. Is my daughter on any Rx?
> No....she no longer takes Prednisone or Asacol (alergic to 5ASA) Will I
> continue to purchase Molocure? Yes.
>
> To all....I know I don't post much since there's nothing to say, but
> I'm still out there.....my daughter is still doing fine....she will be off
> to college next year. Time is really flying! You are all still in my
> thoughts and prayers....
>
> Joe
>

..y

ship wrote:
> Hi
>
> I want to hear from anyone who has *ACTUALLY TRIED* the
> (horrendously expensive) "A.M.P. Molo-cure"(www.molocure.com) - for
any
> of these conditions:
>
> a)IBS (Irritable Bowel Syndrome)
>
> b)CFS (Chronic Fatique Syndrome)
>
> c)Reactive Hypoglycemia
>
> d)Thyroid problems
>
> I know the stuff is HORRENDOUSLY expensive, but I read all the
> testimonials (c. 50 pages worth) and found it intriquing...
> And yes $179.00 for a small bottle (270 capsules) that will only last
> you 1 to 3 months *is* expensive.
>
> But thereagain it's a bargain if it does actually work!
>
>
> Ship
> Shiperton Henethe

..y

I am on molocure just now after a full year flare and almost losing my
bowel. i had a major reaction to azothiaprine and lesser reaction to
asacol. I have been on prednisilone also for a year and am down to
one mg now, so should be completely off them next week. I have
been too scared to try 6mp which my consultant would like me to go on ,
so i tried molocure (despite the expense) as a large ditch effort to
avoid 6mp. I have steadily got better since i started using it whch
was in mid february. You get dietry advice and breathng techniques
etc with t so that could be as helpful as the actual molocure, Any
way i cannot believe how well i'm doing , so am reluctant to come of it
but after another month will go on to the maintenance dose which will
work out cheaper.

More research should go into thiis medicine though, because iif it s
effectve, it disgraceful that it s denied to people because of the
cost and as it has not adverse reactions, would be a far better
alternative to what is on offer.

cheers
kaye