Various Topics on Alternative Medicine

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In article <D95ee.5059$V01.3273@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink. net>,
George Lagergren <gel44@earthlink.net> wrote:
>"Rich" <joshew@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
>> I think Tim and George need a little casein in their diets . . . they both
>> seem to have dome unglued.
>
> That is the point that Tim; Pizza Girl; and I are trying to make.
> By not consuming dairy (including cow's milk) products, we have
>indeed become "un-glued." We no longer have that thick, heavy casein
>protein (a de facto "liquid glue" ???) contained within cow's milk clogging
>up our insides.

You didn't have that happening before, either. You're ***uming that
you did. You are wrong. The casein in milk stays in liquid form in
your body and doesn't turn into glue.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"His staff loves to say Bush is a man who doesn't know the
meaning of the word 'quit.' Well, apparently he's not all
that conversant with the word 'shame' either." (Will Durst)

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On Wed, 04 May 2005 00:17:36 GMT, "George Lagergren"
<gel44@earthlink.net> wrote:

>"Tim Campbell" <timcall@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> The American Dairy ***ociation has a new marketing campaign that may
>> oneday replace their successful milk mustache campaign. The Dairy
>> Education Board welcomes the opportunity to reveal the secret powers of
>> concentrated milk.
>
> Tim, thanks for posting this info. Mucus within cow's milk
>can cause germs to stay within the human body. Thus cow's milk drinkers
>may come down with ear infections and strep throats.
>
>Plus, as indicated here, the www.notmilk.com web site regards the heavy,
>thick casein protein contained within cow's milk as a de facto "liquid
>glue."
>

I think I'd make a good case study for milk consumption. I've always
drank tons of milk, for as long as I can remember (I'm 38 now). I've
probably averaged about a litre/quart *PER DAY* (at least for the past
25 years). Wow - thinking about it... 365litres a year * 25-30 years -
that's a *lot* of milk :-)

So far, so good though (strep throat only once that I can remember, no
memorable ear infections).

I'd say my health has always been 'above average', and more recently
'really good' now that I'm trying to eat my "5 a day" (fruits and
veggies), getting a little more sleep, and regular (moderate)
exercise.

I drank full-fat up until about age 18. I switched to 2% once I was
on my own. I drank skim for a few years, and am currently drinking 1%
now.

I drank organic for a year, but am back to 'regular' now (I understand
the mik here, in Canada, isn't as bad as in the US for BGH, etc.)

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"Renegade5" <Renegade5@Earth.com> wrote in message

> I think I'd make a good case study for milk consumption. I've always
> drank tons of milk, for as long as I can remember (I'm 38 now). I've
> probably averaged about a litre/quart *PER DAY* (at least for the past
> 25 years). Wow - thinking about it... 365litres a year * 25-30 years -
> that's a *lot* of milk :-)

You're lying or will be dead in a week. :-)

moo

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"Renegade5" <Renegade5@Earth.com> wrote in message
news:42792a2a.26717167@nntp.ktchnr.phub.net.cable. rogers.com...
> On Wed, 04 May 2005 00:17:36 GMT, "George Lagergren"
> <gel44@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >"Tim Campbell" <timcall@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >> The American Dairy ***ociation has a new marketing campaign that may
> >> oneday replace their successful milk mustache campaign. The Dairy
> >> Education Board welcomes the opportunity to reveal the secret powers of
> >> concentrated milk.
> >
"George Lagergren"
> > Tim, thanks for posting this info. Mucus within cow's milk
> >can cause germs to stay within the human body. Thus cow's milk
drinkers
> >may come down with ear infections and strep throats.
> >
> >Plus, as indicated here, the www.notmilk.com web site regards the heavy,
> >thick casein protein contained within cow's milk as a de facto "liquid
> >glue."
> >
>
Renegade5" <Renegade5@Earth.com> wrote:
> I think I'd make a good case study for milk consumption. I've always
> drank tons of milk, for as long as I can remember (I'm 38 now). I've
> probably averaged about a litre/quart *PER DAY* (at least for the past
> 25 years). Wow - thinking about it... 365litres a year * 25-30 years -
> that's a *lot* of milk :-)

With that much cow's milk drinking, if you do not suffer from
diabetes, you are doing good.
>
> So far, so good though (strep throat only once that I can remember, no
> memorable ear infections).

any other health problems like sinus or hayfever conditions?

> I'd say my health has always been 'above average', and more recently
> 'really good' now that I'm trying to eat my "5 a day" (fruits and
> veggies), getting a little more sleep, and regular (moderate)
> exercise.
>
> I drank full-fat up until about age 18. I switched to 2% once I was
> on my own. I drank skim for a few years, and am currently drinking 1%
> now.
>
> I drank organic for a year, but am back to 'regular' now (I understand
> the mik here, in Canada, isn't as bad as in the US for BGH, etc.)

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> "Renegade5" <Renegade5@Earth.com> wrote:
> > I think I'd make a good case study for milk consumption. I've always
> > drank tons of milk, for as long as I can remember (I'm 38 now). I've
> > probably averaged about a litre/quart *PER DAY* (at least for the past
> > 25 years). Wow - thinking about it... 365litres a year * 25-30 years -
> > that's a *lot* of milk :-)

Happy Dog" <happydog@sympatico.ca> replied:
> You're lying or will be dead in a week. :-) [grin???]

Or maybe some heavy cow's milk male drinkers, like "Renegade5" in
their old age will suffer from prostate cancer???????
==============
In ref to breast cancer, I read a story on the web, where a woman
had breast cancer, and had it removed. But the breast cancer came back.
The woman just happened to read information which said Chinese women have a
low rate of breast cancer and also a low rate of drinking cow's milk.
Anyways, the woman decided to stop her drinking of cow's milk. And
discovered her breast cancer disappeared. Any cause and effect?
Who knows?

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"George Lagergren" <gel44@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> "Renegade5" <Renegade5@Earth.com> wrote:
>> > I think I'd make a good case study for milk consumption. I've always
>> > drank tons of milk, for as long as I can remember (I'm 38 now). I've
>> > probably averaged about a litre/quart *PER DAY* (at least for the past
>> > 25 years). Wow - thinking about it... 365litres a year * 25-30 years -
>> > that's a *lot* of milk :-)
>
> Happy Dog" <happydog@sympatico.ca> replied:
>> You're lying or will be dead in a week. :-) [grin???]
>
> Or maybe some heavy cow's milk male drinkers, like "Renegade5"
> in
> their old age will suffer from prostate cancer???????

Probably. But it won't have anything to do with their milk consumption.
> ==============
> In ref to breast cancer, I read a story on the web,

Oh shut up.

moo

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"Tim Campbell" <timcall@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1115135386.890333.322520@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
>
>
> The American Dairy ***ociation has a new marketing campaign that may
> oneday replace their successful milk mustache campaign. The Dairy
> Education Board welcomes the opportunity to reveal the secret powers of


Milk = snot?

Yeah, right...



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In article <42792a2a.26717167@nntp.ktchnr.phub.net.cable.roge rs.com>,
Renegade5 <Renegade5@Earth.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 04 May 2005 00:17:36 GMT, "George Lagergren"
><gel44@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>"Tim Campbell" <timcall@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>> The American Dairy ***ociation has a new marketing campaign that may
>>> oneday replace their successful milk mustache campaign. The Dairy
>>> Education Board welcomes the opportunity to reveal the secret powers of
>>> concentrated milk.
>>
>> Tim, thanks for posting this info. Mucus within cow's milk
>>can cause germs to stay within the human body. Thus cow's milk drinkers
>>may come down with ear infections and strep throats.
>>
>>Plus, as indicated here, the www.notmilk.com web site regards the heavy,
>>thick casein protein contained within cow's milk as a de facto "liquid
>>glue."
>
>I think I'd make a good case study for milk consumption. I've always
>drank tons of milk, for as long as I can remember (I'm 38 now). I've
>probably averaged about a litre/quart *PER DAY* (at least for the past
>25 years). Wow - thinking about it... 365litres a year * 25-30 years -
>that's a *lot* of milk :-)

Indeed it is. I drink about half as much as you do, but it still adds
up to about a gallon per week in my case.

>So far, so good though (strep throat only once that I can remember, no
>memorable ear infections).

I haven't had an ear infection since I can remember. I've had a few
sore throats, but most of them were viral.

>I'd say my health has always been 'above average', and more recently
>'really good' now that I'm trying to eat my "5 a day" (fruits and
>veggies), getting a little more sleep, and regular (moderate)
>exercise.
>
>I drank full-fat up until about age 18. I switched to 2% once I was
>on my own. I drank skim for a few years, and am currently drinking 1%
>now.

1% seems to be a reasonable amount. I detest skim.

>I drank organic for a year, but am back to 'regular' now (I understand
>the mik here, in Canada, isn't as bad as in the US for BGH, etc.)

It varies in the US; some farmers use BGH, some do not. It was a sad
day when it came out -- as if dairy support payments weren't high
enough already...

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"His staff loves to say Bush is a man who doesn't know the
meaning of the word 'quit.' Well, apparently he's not all
that conversant with the word 'shame' either." (Will Durst)

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In article <4YAee.4596$7F4.2414@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink. net>,
George Lagergren <gel44@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> "Renegade5" <Renegade5@Earth.com> wrote:
>> > I think I'd make a good case study for milk consumption. I've always
>> > drank tons of milk, for as long as I can remember (I'm 38 now). I've
>> > probably averaged about a litre/quart *PER DAY* (at least for the past
>> > 25 years). Wow - thinking about it... 365litres a year * 25-30 years -
>> > that's a *lot* of milk :-)
>
>Happy Dog" <happydog@sympatico.ca> replied:
>> You're lying or will be dead in a week. :-) [grin???]
>
> Or maybe some heavy cow's milk male drinkers, like "Renegade5" in
>their old age will suffer from prostate cancer???????

Walt Willett's letter notwithstanding, the connection is not proven.

> In ref to breast cancer, I read a story on the web, where a woman
>had breast cancer, and had it removed. But the breast cancer came back.

That often happens whether someone drinks milk or not.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"His staff loves to say Bush is a man who doesn't know the
meaning of the word 'quit.' Well, apparently he's not all
that conversant with the word 'shame' either." (Will Durst)

..negad..

On Fri, 06 May 2005 02:50:40 GMT, "George Lagergren"
<gel44@earthlink.net> wrote:

>> "Renegade5" <Renegade5@Earth.com> wrote:
>> > I think I'd make a good case study for milk consumption. I've always
>> > drank tons of milk, for as long as I can remember (I'm 38 now). I've
>> > probably averaged about a litre/quart *PER DAY* (at least for the past
>> > 25 years). Wow - thinking about it... 365litres a year * 25-30 years -
>> > that's a *lot* of milk :-)
>
>Happy Dog" <happydog@sympatico.ca> replied:
>> You're lying or will be dead in a week. :-) [grin???]
>
> Or maybe some heavy cow's milk male drinkers, like "Renegade5" in
>their old age will suffer from prostate cancer???????

Possibly. I'm not advocating milk, just offering to act as an
experiment :-)

I've thought about giving it up or drinking less when Willett (a
peron's whose views I highly regard) came out with his stance... but I
find it hard to do because it seems to have served me well... it's
almost like turning my back on a faithful friend.

Yes, I need to seek psychiatic help...