Various Topics on Alternative Medicine

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"Pace Sanders" <pacesanders@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> David Wright wrote:
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> > >Thanks for your comment Jeff but I suspect there are still some out
> > >there who are not aware of the carcinogenicity of Ritalin.
> >
> > Like you, for example. I could only find two studies on the subject,
> > both in rats or mice. The conclusion was that there was little
> > evidence of carcinogenicity from methylphenidate,and in some cases it
> > actually seemed to *reduce* the instance of tumors.
>
> "a little evidence of carcinogenicity" is enough for me.

find and read the study.

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"LadyLollipop" <LadyLollipop@insightbb.com> wrote in message
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> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > this was 3 1/2 years ago. Try more modern news next time.
> >
> > Jeff
>
> Pat reply #
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> FACT is , it was 3 1/2 years ago, and it is STILL being prescribed!!!!!!!

yes, by people who know how to read a research study and understand how it
is actually irrelevant.

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<spamtrap@rr.ca.ul.mv> wrote in message
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>
> wow, very frightening and very relevant for anyone taking ritalin.

Actually, lousy journalism and sensationalism, which ommission of 99.9% of
the facts.


> On 6 May 2005 19:22:57 -0700, in misc.kids.breastfeeding "Tim Campbell"
> <timcall@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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> >
> >http://www.preventcancer.com/patient...id/ritalin.htm
> >
> >American Academy of Pediatrics Guidelines for Treating Behavioral
> >Disorders in Children with Ritalin Ignores Evidence of Cancer Risks
> >warns Samuel S. Epstein, M.D.
> >
> >Chicago, 10/04/01. Based on an industry-funded multi-university trial
> >on
> >282 pre-teen children treated with Ritalin for attention
> >deficit/hyperactivity disorders (ADHD), just published in Pediatrics,
> >the American Academy of Pediatrics has endorsed the use of the drug.
> >However, the Academy ignores clear evidence of the drug's cancer risks
> >of which parents, teachers and school nurses, besides most
> >pediatricians
> >and psychiatrists, still remain uninformed and unaware.
> >
> >Some 40 years after the drug was first marketed by Ciba Geigy,
> >carcinogenicity tests were conducted at the taxpayers expense by the
> >National Toxicology Program, the results of which were published in
> >1995. Adult mice were fed Ritalin over a two-year period at dosages
> >close to those prescribed to children. The mice developed a
> >statistically significant incidence of liver abnormalities and tumors,
> >including highly aggressive rare cancers known as hepatoblastomas.
> >These
> >findings are particularly disturbing as the tests were conducted on
> >adult, rather than young mice which would be expected to be much more
> >sensitive to carcinogenic effects. The National Toxicology Program
> >concluded that Ritalin is a "possible human carcinogen," and
> >recommended
> >the need for further research. While still insisting that the drug is
> >safe, the Food and Drug Administration admitted that these findings
> >signal "carcinogenic potential," and required a statement to this
> >effect
> >in the drug's package insert. However, these inserts are not seen by
> >parents or nurses.
> >
> >The Physicians' Desk Reference admits evidence on the carcinogenicity
> >of
> >Ritalin, now manufactured by Novartis, qualified by the statement that
> >"the significance of these results is unknown," apparently not
> >recognizing that this is more alarming than re***uring. Apart from
> >cancer risks, there is also suggestive evidence that Ritalin induces
> >genetic damage in blood cells of Ritalin-treated children.
> >
> >Concerns on Ritalin's cancer risk are more acute in view of the
> >millions
> >of children treated annually with the drug and the escalating incidence
> >
> >of childhood cancer, by some 35% over the last few decades, quite apart
> >
> >from delayed risks of cancer in adult life. These risks are compounded
> >by the availability of alternative safe and effective procedures,
> >notably behavior modification and biofeedback.
> >
> >There is no justification for prescribing Ritalin, even by highly
> >qualified pediatricians and psychiatrists, unless parents have been
> >explicitly informed of the drug's cancer risks. Otherwise, prescribing
> >Ritalin constitutes unarguable medical malpractice.
> >
> >CONTACT: Samuel S. Epstein, M.D.
> >
> >Professor emeritus Environmental & Occupational Medicine
> >
> >Chairman, Cancer Prevention Coalition
> >
> >c/o University of Illinois at Chicago
> >
> >School of Public Health, M/C 922
> >
> >2121 W. Taylor Street
> >
> >Chicago, IL 60612
> >
> >phone 312-996-2297, fax 312-413-9898
> >
> >email epstein@uic.edu
>

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Many parents take care of their kids ADD problem by finding out what
their Hidden Food Allergies are. Naturopathic doctors know about this.
Hidden Food Allergies can trigger Asthma, ADD, eczema, psoriasis, sleep
disorders, migraines, and many other health problems. It doesn't work
for everybody, but it works great for a significant number of people.
It is completely safe and natural too. Many people don't recognize that
they have Hidden Food Allergies because the symptoms can be mild, and
they can take up to 72 hours to occur. If you eat the food that you are
allergic to everyday (like wheat), you can't make the connection to
food. If you are allergic to corn, your ADD may occur everytime you eat
corn syrup, corn starch, etc.. Additives made from corn are in most
processed foods. Conventional doctors can't test for this. You have to
make adjustments in your diet in order to tell. Naturopathic doctors
have just as much education as conventional doctors. Finding your
hidden food allergies may also give you a significant energy boost. It
can also make your skin look better. There are some good books about
this, "Your Hidden Food Allergies are making you Fat" and "Dr. Braly's
Food Allergy and Nutrition Revolution". There are other books about
this at many bookstores.

Brad_Chad62@yahoo.com

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"Brad_Chad" <Brad_Chad62@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Many parents take care of their kids ADD problem by finding out what
> their Hidden Food Allergies are.

If a child has a hidden food allergy, then they do not have AD/HD.

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"Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "LadyLollipop" <LadyLollipop@insightbb.com> wrote in message
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>> "David Wright" <wright@l1000.prodigy.net> wrote in message
>> news:E_Wee.1554$Ig5.706@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com ...
>>> In article <1115434912.285292.42760@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups. com>,
>>> Tim Campbell <timcall@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Jeff wrote:
>>>>> this was 3 1/2 years ago. Try more modern news next time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeff
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for your comment Jeff but I suspect there are still some out
>>>>there who are not aware of the carcinogenicity of Ritalin.
>>>
>>> Like you, for example. I could only find two studies on the subject,
>>> both in rats or mice. The conclusion was that there was little
>>> evidence of carcinogenicity from methylphenidate,and in some cases it
>>> actually seemed to *reduce* the instance of tumors.
>>>
>>> -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
>>> These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
>>
>> INCORRECT
>>
>> http://www.pharma.us.novartis.com/pr...ritalin-sr.pdf
>
> According to this, the dose was 30 times higher than the maximum dose,
> based on the weight of the mice.
>
> There is no evidence that this occurs in humans.
>
> Jeff

I suspect there are still some out
>>>there who are not aware of the carcinogenicity of Ritalin.

http://www.pharma.us.novartis.com/pr...ritalin-sr.pdf

>> http://au.geocities.com/neville222/m25ritalin.html
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>> http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/methphen_wcp.htm
>>
>> http://www.ritalindeath.com/Package%20insert.htm
>>
>> LL/Jan
>>
>>
>
>

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"Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "LadyLollipop" <LadyLollipop@insightbb.com> wrote in message
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>> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:sXVee.4683$pe3.3045@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
>>> this was 3 1/2 years ago. Try more modern news next time.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>
>> Pat reply #
>> 43480324885809348790324899348932948932483094834934-3249348903493248-93-24884
>>
>> FACT is , it was 3 1/2 years ago, and it is STILL being prescribed!!!!!!!
>
> Which is a good thing for the kids with ADHD. Because methylphenidate is a
> safe drug that really helps these kids.
>
> Jeff

Which means Jeff ignored the websites.


>> http://au.geocities.com/neville222/m25ritalin.html
>>
>> http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/methphen_wcp.htm
>>
>> http://www.ritalindeath.com/Package%20insert.htm

Furthermore, these have been posted previously.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3072445.stm

http://www.wsws.org/news/1998/nov1998/rit-n04.shtml

http://www.lexingtoninstitute.org/docs/325.pdf

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...cklash/un.html

http://www.nfgcc.org/64.htm

http://www.psychologytoday.com/htdoc...901-000005.ASP

http://www.add-adhd-help-center.com/...de_effects.htm

http://www.nmha.org/newsroom/system/...?do=vw&rid=208

http://www.sntp.net/ritalin/time_bomb.htm

http://www.specialednews.com/disabil...lin032600.html

http://www.preventioncolorado.org/Ritalin.htm

http://www.education-world.com/a_iss...sues148a.shtml

LL/Jan

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"LadyLollipop" <LadyLollipop@insightbb.com> wrote in message
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> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > "LadyLollipop" <LadyLollipop@insightbb.com> wrote in message
> > news:qXXee.61476$WI3.15119@attbi_s71...
> >>
> >> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:sXVee.4683$pe3.3045@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
> >>> this was 3 1/2 years ago. Try more modern news next time.
> >>>
> >>> Jeff
> >>
> >> Pat reply #
> >>
43480324885809348790324899348932948932483094834934-3249348903493248-93-24884
> >>
> >> FACT is , it was 3 1/2 years ago, and it is STILL being
prescribed!!!!!!!
> >
> > Which is a good thing for the kids with ADHD. Because methylphenidate is
a
> > safe drug that really helps these kids.
> >
> > Jeff
>
> Which means Jeff ignored the websites.

I read the Novartis website which gives the most information from the
original studies. I also read the original studies in their entirety.

The *articles* are ****. Read the facts, like I did. The carcinogenicity was
found only when the specially bred mice and rats (bred to develop cancer
easily) were given doses at thirty, that is 30, times the dose used in
treatment. Since MPH is rapidly cleared, there is no ac***ulation in the
body and thus, no problem.

Thwe article is, at best, nothing more that lousy journalism, and, at worst,
lying scaremongering.

> >> http://au.geocities.com/neville222/m25ritalin.html
> >>
> >> http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/methphen_wcp.htm
> >>
> >> http://www.ritalindeath.com/Package%20insert.htm
>
> Furthermore, these have been posted previously.
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3072445.stm
>
> http://www.wsws.org/news/1998/nov1998/rit-n04.shtml
>
> http://www.lexingtoninstitute.org/docs/325.pdf
>
> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...cklash/un.html
>
> http://www.nfgcc.org/64.htm
>
>
http://www.psychologytoday.com/htdoc...901-000005.ASP
>
> http://www.add-adhd-help-center.com/...de_effects.htm
>
> http://www.nmha.org/newsroom/system/...?do=vw&rid=208
>
> http://www.sntp.net/ritalin/time_bomb.htm
>
>
http://www.specialednews.com/disabil...lin032600.html
>
> http://www.preventioncolorado.org/Ritalin.htm
>
> http://www.education-world.com/a_iss...sues148a.shtml
>
> LL/Jan
>
>

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Have you read, "Tracking Down Hidden Food Allergies" by Dr. William
Crook ? Have you read, "Dr. Braly's Food Allergy and Nutrition
Revolution ? There are many doctors and parents who have treated or
modified kids ADD by finding their Hidden Food Allergies and
nutritional deficiencies.

Brad_Chad62@yahoo.com

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Sounds like unanswered I mean *UNANSWERRRRRED*!!!!!! health problems ......



"LadyLollipop" <LadyLollipop@insightbb.com> wrote in message
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> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > "LadyLollipop" <LadyLollipop@insightbb.com> wrote in message
> > news:qXXee.61476$WI3.15119@attbi_s71...
> >>
> >> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:sXVee.4683$pe3.3045@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
> >>> this was 3 1/2 years ago. Try more modern news next time.
> >>>
> >>> Jeff
> >>
> >> Pat reply #
> >>
43480324885809348790324899348932948932483094834934-3249348903493248-93-24884
> >>
> >> FACT is , it was 3 1/2 years ago, and it is STILL being
prescribed!!!!!!!
> >
> > Which is a good thing for the kids with ADHD. Because methylphenidate is
a
> > safe drug that really helps these kids.
> >
> > Jeff
>
> Which means Jeff ignored the websites.
>
>
> >> http://au.geocities.com/neville222/m25ritalin.html
> >>
> >> http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/methphen_wcp.htm
> >>
> >> http://www.ritalindeath.com/Package%20insert.htm
>
> Furthermore, these have been posted previously.
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3072445.stm
>
> http://www.wsws.org/news/1998/nov1998/rit-n04.shtml
>
> http://www.lexingtoninstitute.org/docs/325.pdf
>
> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...cklash/un.html
>
> http://www.nfgcc.org/64.htm
>
>
http://www.psychologytoday.com/htdoc...0901-000005.AS
P
>
> http://www.add-adhd-help-center.com/...de_effects.htm
>
> http://www.nmha.org/newsroom/system/...?do=vw&rid=208
>
> http://www.sntp.net/ritalin/time_bomb.htm
>
>
http://www.specialednews.com/disabil...nritalin032600
..html
>
> http://www.preventioncolorado.org/Ritalin.htm
>
> http://www.education-world.com/a_iss...sues148a.shtml
>
> LL/Jan
>
>