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Balco, Rovey and Stone, 2005 we have been discussing stone tool hostinghostinghostingociation with the time frame of 2.59 million years ago in gona. The question is whether the culture could have moved from elsewhere. This paper depicts the onset of the first major iceage in north america around 2.6 to 2.53 mya (FGMNA). The onset of cooler temperatures may have pushed tropical species from other spots in africa towards the equator at this time, therefore the ubrupt onset of gona tool industries is also possibly explained as a movement from unsampled sites elsewhere into the region. The equitorial divide might have restricted homo to one side of the equator before FGMNAs onset and allowed the distribution on either side there after with some equitorial adaptation. This initial split may have led to the developement of ergastor and erectus later. -- Philip - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mol. Anth. Group Mol. Evol. Hominids Evol. of Xchrom. Pal. Anth. Group Sci. Arch. Aux DNApaleoAnth at Att dot net |
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> This article is in the magazine Science 307:222 > Balco, Rovey and Stone, 2005 > > we have been discussing stone tool hostinghostinghostingociation with the time > frame of 2.59 million years ago in gona. The question is > whether the culture could have moved from elsewhere. > > This paper depicts the onset of the first major iceage in > north america around 2.6 to 2.53 mya (FGMNA). The onset of > cooler temperatures may have pushed tropical species from > other spots in africa towards the equator at this time, > therefore the ubrupt onset of gona tool industries is also > possibly explained as a movement from unsampled sites > elsewhere into the region. The equitorial divide might have > restricted homo to one side of the equator before FGMNAs onset > and allowed the distribution on either side there after with > some equitorial adaptation. This initial split may have led to > the developement of ergastor and erectus later. So the fist glacial maximum provided a one-two punch? -- John S. Wilkins AA#2207 web: blog: evolvethought.blogspot.com God cheats |
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message ID news: : > So the fist glacial maximum provided a one-two punch? And coughed up and "r". -- Philip - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mol. Anth. Group Mol. Evol. Hominids Evol. of Xchrom. Pal. Anth. Group Sci. Arch. Aux DNApaleoAnth at Att dot net |
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Philip Deitiker wrote: > This article is in the magazine Science 307:222 > Balco, Rovey and Stone, 2005 <snip> > This paper depicts the onset of > the first major iceage in north america > around 2.6 to 2.53 mya > (FGMNA). <snip> "FGMNA", of course, means "First Glacial Maximum in North America", as in: G. Balco, C.W. Rovey II, J.O.H. Stone The First Glacial Maximum in North America Science, Vol 307, Issue 5707, 222, 14 January 2005 But it seems that the date on that "Atlanta" glacial deposit is somewhat younger than reported above, i.e. 2.4 Ma, and possibly as old as 2.45 Ma. Using a different calibration standard would have given an age of 2.64 Ma. The marine record suggests a cold phase at about 2.58 Ma. One wonders where "around 2.6 to 2.53 mya" comes from. Philip, would you be so kind as to quote the relevant phostinghostinghostingage? Thank you. Daryl Krupa P.S.: The beginning of the Quaternary has already been considered to be at about 2.6 MA, based on several other types of records; climate had been coolish before that, but not for extended periods: " 5. A majority of INQUA members appear to favour a "long" Quaternary (2.6 Ma) over a "short" Quaternary (1.8 Ma). In essence, the preference for a "long" Quaternary reflects perceived continuity of character over that time. For example, around 2.6 Ma, Chinese loess deposition becomes widespread and is substantially different in character to the underlying Red Clay (e.g. Ding et al. 1997. Quaternary International 40, 53). 6. Around 2.6 Ma, deep sea oxygen isotope records show the culmination of a series of cycles of increasing glacial intensity, also hostinghostinghostingociated with the first major inputs of ice rafted debris to the North Atlantic. For many this marks the beginning of the "Quaternary ice ages". It also marks a change from precession-dominated to obliquity-dominated climate forcing. " Also: ---------------------------------------------- Abstract: Science. 2005 Jan 14;307(5707):222. The first glacial maximum in North America. Balco G, Rovey CW 2nd, Stone JO. Quaternary Research Center and Department of Earth and Space Sciences, University of Washington, Seattle, WA 98915, USA. Despite marine evidence for at least hostinghosting Pliocene- Pleistocene ice sheet advances, only the most recent one has been accurately reconstructed from terrestrial evidence, because there are few techniques for dating older glacial deposits. Here we show that the cosmic ray-produced nuclides beryllium-10 and aluminum-26 can be used to date tills that overlie paleosols. In the Supplementary Material, we see that the date for the paleosol developed on that earliest "Atlanta" till is 2.4 Ma: Rough translation of embargoed French material on the article: The first movement of a North-American icecap : The Laurentide cap advanced for the first time on North America approximately 2,4 million years ago, according to the first data of terrestrial source. The continental icecaps advanced and moved back several times during last million years, but the scientists include/understand really only the most recent movements. Those took place rather recently so that one can employ the dating with carbon-14 to measure the age of the rock deposits left by the icecap. For the older movements, only the indices up to now came from marine data. Greg Balco and its colleagues were used for themselves of dating to the cosmic rays in order to obtain dates for the old drifts. The nuclides aluminium-26 and beryllium-10 are produced in quartz exposed to cosmic rays. When quartz is buried, the production ceases and each nuclide déintègre at a known speed, making it possible to calculate since how long quartz is under the ground. The authors fixed the date of two layers of glacial rocks in central Missouri. Oldest were deposited approximately 2,4 million years ago at the time of the oldest movement and more in the south of the Laurentide cap. The second layer went back to approximately 1,6 to 1,8 million years. In the Supplementary Material, we see that the date for the paleosol developed on that earliest "Atlanta" till is 2.4 Ma: Abstract at: OR |
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news: oups.com: > > Philip Deitiker wrote: >> This article is in the magazine Science 307:222 >> Balco, Rovey and Stone, 2005 > <snip> >> This paper depicts the onset of >> the first major iceage in north america >> around 2.6 to 2.53 mya >> (FGMNA). > <snip> > > "FGMNA", of course, means > "First Glacial Maximum in North America", > as in: > > G. Balco, C.W. Rovey II, J.O.H. Stone > The First Glacial Maximum in North America > Science, Vol 307, Issue 5707, 222, 14 January 2005 > > But it seems that the date on that "Atlanta" glacial > deposit is somewhat younger than reported above, i.e. > 2.4 Ma, and possibly as old as 2.45 Ma. > Using a different calibration standard would have > given an age of 2.64 Ma. > The marine record suggests a cold phase at about > 2.58 Ma. > > One wonders where "around 2.6 to 2.53 mya" comes from. Me, I was trying to digest this down based on what I observed. P.S.: The beginning of the Quaternary has already > been considered to be at about 2.6 MA, based on > several other types of records; climate had been > coolish before that, but not for extended periods: I didn't know that, again I don't keep up to date on the paleoclimatology past 800 kya. So in your opinion the sudden appearance of stone tools in africa could be an artifact of regionally biased sampling and sudden shifts in hominid population. How should one correct for these climactic factors when considering the latest data hostinghostinghostingessments at Gona, and the holoconclusion that this represents the abrupt appearance of stone tool use. -- Philip - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ____Groups_____ Mol Anthro Pal Anthro Arch. Aux Gliadin Sci ____Sites_____ Mol. Evol. Hominids Evol. of Xchrom. |
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Philip Deitiker wrote: > says in > news: oups.com: > > > > > Philip Deitiker wrote: > >> This article is in the magazine Science 307:222 > >> Balco, Rovey and Stone, 2005 > > <snip> > >> This paper depicts the onset of > >> the first major iceage in north america > >> around 2.6 to 2.53 mya > >> (FGMNA). > > <snip> > > > > "FGMNA", of course, means > > "First Glacial Maximum in North America", > > as in: > > > > G. Balco, C.W. Rovey II, J.O.H. Stone > > The First Glacial Maximum in North America > > Science, Vol 307, Issue 5707, 222, 14 January 2005 > > > > But it seems that the date on that "Atlanta" glacial > > deposit is somewhat younger than reported above, i.e. > > 2.4 Ma, and possibly as old as 2.45 Ma. > > Using a different calibration standard would have > > given an age of 2.64 Ma. > > The marine record suggests a cold phase at about > > 2.58 Ma. > > > > One wonders where "around 2.6 to 2.53 mya" comes from. > > Me, I was trying to digest this down based on what I observed. > > P.S.: The beginning of the Quaternary has already > > been considered to be at about 2.6 MA, based on > > several other types of records; climate had been > > coolish before that, but not for extended periods: > > I didn't know that, again I don't keep up to date on the > paleoclimatology past 800 kya. > > So in your opinion the sudden appearance of stone tools in africa > could be an artifact of regionally biased sampling and sudden shifts > in hominid population. > How should one correct for these climactic factors when considering > the latest data hostinghostinghostingessments at Gona, and the holoconclusion that this > represents the abrupt appearance of stone tool use. > > -- > Philip > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > ____Groups_____ > Mol Anthro > Pal Anthro > Arch. Aux > Gliadin Sci > > ____Sites_____ > Mol. Evol. Hominids > Evol. of Xchrom. |
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> says in > news: oups.com: > > > > > Philip Deitiker wrote: > >> This article is in the magazine Science 307:222 > >> Balco, Rovey and Stone, 2005 > > <snip> > >> This paper depicts the onset of > >> the first major iceage in north america > >> around 2.6 to 2.53 mya > >> (FGMNA). > > <snip> <snip> > > One wonders where "around 2.6 to 2.53 mya" comes from. > > Me, I was trying to digest this down based on what I observed. Balco, Rovey and Stone, they say: "We measured 26Al and 10Be in quartz from paleosols in the hostinghostinghostinghostingpoorwill and Atlanta formations (table S1) and found that the Atlanta till was deposited 2.41 ± 0.14 million years ago (Ma)." Also: "Given our dating uncertainty, this is likely the same advance suggested by negative 18O excursions in Gulf of Mexico sediments of similar age (4), although the present uncertainties in the half-lives of 26Al and 10Be (2), as well as in the time scales for the marine records, make it difficult to correlate either event with the major increase in North Atlantic ice-rafted debris near 2.5 Ma (shown in Fig. 1 by the abrupt decrease in CaCO3 percentage) (5). The idea that Northern Hemisphere continental ice sheets first formed 2.7 to 2.4 Ma has previously been based on inference from marine sediments. The Atlanta till is direct terrestrial evidence that the Laurentide Ice Sheet did in fact develop and advance to its full extent during this time interval." Their Fig. 1. (B) shows an abrupt cooling at 2.5 Ma in the North Atlantic deep-sea core CaCO3 and 18O records. They cite Shackleton, et al. (1) re: the core data, who say in their abstract: "... the first major horizon of ice-rafting occurred at about 2.4 Myr, and was preceded by a minor pulse of ice-rafting at about 2.5 Myr." On p.622 they say: "Paleomagnetic straigraphy and nannofossil stratigraphy in this site give identical estimates for the age of the first major northern hemisphere glacial event about 2.37 Myr." .... "A brief ice-rafting episode, coinciding with positive 18O values, is observed at about 2.5 Myr." They also note (on p. 623) that "glaciation in Iceland occured as early as 3.1 Mya", though they also note that this did not indicate European glaciation at that time, and that "the scale of [nannofossil] variation was much less before 2.4 Myr than it was after the event at that time." All indications in the Balco, et al. article are that there was a transition to repetivie glacial-interglacial climate cycles in the northern hemisphere starting at about 2.4 Ma. (Or at about 2.4 Mya, if you prefer.) Therefore, > >> This paper depicts the onset of > >> the first major iceage in north america > >> around 2.6 to 2.53 mya is not quite accurate. More detailed chronology can be seen below. > P.S.: The beginning of the Quaternary has already > > been considered to be at about 2.6 MA, based on > > several other types of records; climate had been > > coolish before that, but not for extended periods: > > I didn't know that, again I don't keep up to date on > the paleoclimatology past 800 kya. > > So in your opinion the sudden appearance of stone tools > in africa could be an artifact of regionally biased > sampling and sudden shifts in hominid population. That's possible; actually, I have no opinion on that matter, although I am comfortable with the thought that a major shift in global climate would increase pressure to innovate new technologies. I am also comfortable with the idea that a type of fossil may appear suddenly in the record without necessarily indicating a sudden development; the range of a population might extend into the site's area some time after that population developed its identifying characteristic. Similarly, a sudden appearance need not mean a sudden shift in a population's range; a might date when the range of the population expanded to include the site, without indicating that the population had been extirpated elsewhere. It might also mean that the site had "suddenly" become habitable and/or exploitable by the population, i.e. the population's range was restricted to other areas before conditions "improved" locally. And there is always the possibility that taphonomic conditions were not amenable to preservation of a certain type of fossil before a certain time. Or even that the appropriate source of raw materials for the particular type of tools was not available until a certain time, due to obscuring overburden that had first to be removed by erosion, for example. > How should one correct for these climactic factors when > considering the latest data hostinghostinghostingessments at Gona, and the > holoconclusion that this represents the abrupt appearance > of stone tool use. You might start by checking out the results from records from sites closer to Gona, e.g. the 1994 paper by Tiedemann, et al. on the record of changes in airborne dust supply to the Atlantic (from the Sahara) in the Pliocene (2). Another 1998 paper by Hauf and Teidemann on the climatic effects of the gradual closure of the Central American Seaway, in _Nature_ (3), gives similar results. Marlow, et al. had an article in _Science_ in 2000 on sea-surface temperatures near south-west Africa (4). You could try to look at it here: A short popular article pointing to Marlow is here: More on investigations of changes in the south-west African Benguela Current: Background article on Pliocene / Quaternary climate: A quick background to the Pliocene (Note the difficulty of transferring what is essentially proxy climatic data from ocean cores to continental Africa.) There are other, regional effects on climate to consider too, e.g. orogeny: The uplift of the Ruwenzori Mountains in Uganda and its bearing on climate change in Africa and hominid evolution Correction for climatic factors at Gona would probably require a climatic record from Gona or nearby. I doubt that a detailed record has yet been recovered. The direct influence of climate change can only be inferred until such a record is available. Best to keep one's comments about dates and influences of far-afield climatic change on the environment at Gona well-qualified, with "maybes", "perhapses" and "possiblies". Daryl Krupa Ref's: (1) Nature 307, 620 - 623 (16 February 1984); doi:10.1038/307620a0 Oxygen isotope calibration of the onset of ice-rafting and history of glaciation in the North Atlantic region N. J. Shackleton, J. Backman, H. Zimmerman, D. V. Kent, M. A. Hall, D. G. Roberts, D. Schnitker, J. G. Baldauf, A. Desprairies, R. Homrighausen, P. Huddlestun, J. B. Keene, A. J. Kaltenback, K. A. O. Krumsiek, A. C. Morton, J. W. Murray & J. Westberg-Smith Abstract We report here that DSDP Site 552A, cored with the hydraulic piston corer on the west flank of Rockall Bank, recovered an undisturbed sequence of alternating white deep-sea carbonate oozes and dark-coloured layers that are rich in glacial debris. Oxygen isotope hostinghostinghostinghostingysis of the sequence together with detailed nannofossil and palaeomagnetic stratigraphy shows that the first major horizon of ice-rafting occurred at about 2.4 Myr, and was preceded by a minor pulse of ice-rafting at about 2.5 Myr. The carbon isotope record shows that the site has been bathed by a water mhostinghostinghosting of similar characteristics to present-day North Atlantic deep water at least since 3.5 Myr. (2) PALEOCEANOGRAPHY, VOL. 9, NO. 4, PAGES 619-638, 1994 Astronomic timescale for the Pliocene Atlantic d18O and dust flux records of Ocean Drilling Program site 659 Ralf Tiedemann Michael Sarnthein Nicholas J. Shackleton Abstract High-resolution benthic oxygen isotope and dust flux records from Ocean Drilling Program site 659 have been hostinghostinghostinghostingyzed to extend the astronomically calibrated isotope timescale for the Atlantic from 2.85 Ma back to 5 Ma. Spectral hostinghostinghostinghostingysis of the d18O records indicates that the 41-kyr period of Earth's orbital obliquity dominates the Pliocene record. This is shown to be true regardless of fundamental changes in the Earth's climate during the Pliocene. However, the cycles of Sahelian aridity fluctuations indicate a shift in spectral character near 3 Ma. >From the early Pliocene to 3 Ma, the periodicities were dominantly precessional (19 and 23 kyr) and remained strong until 1.5 Ma. Subsequent to 3 Ma, the variance at the obliquity period (41 kyr) increased. The timescale tuned to precession suggests that the Pliocene was longer than previously estimated by more than 0.5 m.y. The tuned ages for the magnetic boundaries Gauss/Gilbert and Top Cochiti are about 6-8% older than the ages of the conventional timescale. A major phase of Pliocene northern hemisphere ice growth occurred between 3.15 Ma and 2.5 Ma. This was marked by a gradual increase in glacial Atlantic d18O values of 1% and an increase in amplitude variations by up to 1.5%, much larger than in the Pacific deepwater record (site 846). The first maxima occurred in cold stages G6-96 between 2.7 Ma and 2.45 Ma. Prior to 3 Ma, the isotope record is characterized by predominantly low amplitude fluctuations (<0.7%). When obliquity forcing was at its minimum between 4.15 and 3.6 Ma and during the Kaena interval, d18O amplitude fluctuations were minimal. >From 4.9 to 4.3 Ma, the d18O values decreased by about 0.5%, reaching a long-term minimum at 4.15 Ma, suggesting higher deepwater temperatures or a deglaciation. Deepwater cooling and/or an increase in ice volume is indicated by a series of short-term d18O fluctuations between 3.8 and 3.6 Ma. (3) Nature 393, 673 - 676 (18 June 1998); doi:10.1038/31447 Effect of the formation of the Isthmus of Panama on Atlantic Ocean thermohaline circulation GERALD H. HAUG AND RALF TIEDEMANN Abstract The Late Cenozoic closure of the seaway between the North and South American continents is thought to have caused extensive changes in ocean circulation and Northern Hemisphere climate. But the timing and consequences of the emergence of the Isthmus of Panama, which closed the seaway, remain controversial. Here we present stable-isotope and carbonate sand-fraction records from Caribbean sediments which, when compared to Atlantic and Pacific palaeoceanographic records, indicate that the closure caused a marked reorganization of ocean circulation starting 4.6 million years ago. Shallowing of the seaway intensified the Gulf Stream and introduced warm and saline water mhostinghostinghostinges to high northern lahostinghostinghostingudes. These changes strengthened deep-water formation in the Labrador Sea over the next million years - as indicated by an increased deep-water ventilation and carbonate preservation in the Caribbean Sea - and favoured early Pliocene warming of the Northern Hemisphere. The evaporative cooling of surface waters during North Atlantic Deep Water formation would have introduced moisture to the Northern Hemisphere. Although the pronounced intensification of Northern Hemisphere glaciation between 3.1 and 2.5 million years ago substantially lagged the full development of North Atlantic Deep Water formation, we propose that the increased atmospheric moisture content was a necessary precondition for ice-sheet growth, which was then triggered by the incremental changes in the Earth's orbital obliquity. >From the end of the article: "High-amplitude fluctuations in the Earth's obliquity (low tilt angle) triggered cold summers in the Northern Hemisphere, and prepared the way for strengthening of the glacial-interglacial 41-kyr cycles during late Pliocene and early Pleistocene. However, a pronounced long-term minimum in obliquity amplitude fluctuations occurred between 4.5 and 3.1 Myr. The 18O records of sites 659, 846 and 999 show that during this unfavourable orbital configuration there may have been several failed attempts of the climate system to start the glaciation, for example during 4.1-3.9 Myr and 3.5-3.3 Myr. We therefore suggest that the progressive increase in obliquity amplitudes between 3.1 and 2.5 Myr was the final trigger for amplification and continuation of the long-term expansion of Northern Hemisphere ice sheets after the necessary preconditions were met 4.6-3.6 Myr ago by formation of the Isthmus of Panama." (4) Science, Vol 290, Issue 5hostinghosting0, 2288-2291 , 22 December 2000 [DOI: 10.1126/science.290.5hostinghosting0.2288] Upwelling Intensification As Part of the Pliocene-Pleistocene Climate Transition Jeremy R. Marlow, Carina B. Lange, Gerold Wefer, Antoni Rosell-Melé Abstract A deep-sea sediment core underlying the Benguela upwelling system off southwest Africa provides a continuous time series of sea surface temperature (SST) for the past 4.5 million years. Our results indicate that temperatures in the region have declined by about 10°C since 3.2 million years ago. Records of paleoproductivity suggest that this cooling was hostinghostinghostingociated with an increase in wind-driven upwelling tied to a shift from relatively stable global warmth during the mid-Pliocene to the high-amplitude glacial-interglacial cycles of the late Quaternary. These observations imply that Atlantic Ocean surface water circulation was radically different during the mid-Pliocene." >From the middle of the article: "We have subdivided all the records into five phases to aid interpretation. Phase I (4.6 to 3.2 Ma, mid-Pliocene) is characterized by warm SSTs [Sea Surface Temperatures] with three cool excursions (1° to 2°C at 4.1, 3.7, and 3.2 Ma) that are probably related to increased Antarctic glaciation. The sharp cooling at 3.2 Ma marks the onset of a prolonged gradual cooling (Phase II, 3.2 to 2.1 Ma, late Pliocene) concomitant with the initiation of NHG [Northern Hemisphere Glaciation], with major cooling excursions (2°C at 2.8 and 2.5 Ma) equivalent to events in the ice volume records. The transition from Phase II to III is marked by a rapid decline in SST (2° to 3°C at 2.1 to 1.9 Ma) that is coincident with the onset of more intense glacials. Phase III (2.0 to 1.4 Ma) highlights an apparent pause in the cooling trend but with increasing variability that possibly reflects the increased amplitude in the ice volume record at 41-ky obliquity frequencies, although the average sampling interval in the SST record (~hostinghosting ky) does not allow a detailed orbital scale interpretation. Phase IV includes a SST "crash" that is coincident with further intensification of global ice volume during glacials, followed by a transition at 0.6 Ma to fluctuating SSTs similar to the ~100-ky G-IG cyclicity (Phase V) and with an amplitude (5° to 7°C) comparable to other late Quaternary U37K' reconstructions for the BC [Benguela Current]." .... "Previous records of aeolian dust flux to marine sediments suggested increased trade wind strength and aridification of Africa throughout the cooling transition. This increase in atmospheric circulation would have been driven by a steeper pole-equator temperature gradient owing to the development of the bipolar cryosphere (during Phase II). We hypothesize that the intensification of trade winds initiated a positive feedback cycle, whereby increased trade wind-driven upwelling enhanced the long-term (>100 ky) "leak" of CO2 from the global ocean-atmosphere system as sedimentary organic carbon. A consequent reduction in greenhouse forcing could have contributed to further cooling and bipolar ice sheet expansion, leading to further amplification of the pole-equator temperature gradient. The increase in aridity would have increased the supply of nutrients to the oceans that would have been necessary to sustain an increase in the biologically driven ocean carbon pump. A mechanism of this type working on time scales of >100 ky may have been an important component of changes in the global carbon cycle and may have been partly responsible for allowing the climatic transition to proceed (4, 10, 37-39). Our results for the BC upwelling system suggest that the mechanism became pronounced at 2.1 to 1.9 Ma and intensified during the period leading to the onset of the 100-ky G-IG cycles at ~0.6 Ma." The intensification of BC upwelling would have had a direct regional influence by affecting the climate of southern Africa. A reduction in onshore precipitation owing to cooler coastal surface waters would have compounded the shift from mesic to xeric conditions observed in this region during the Pliocene-Pleistocene (18, 40), a transition that may have forced local speciation events (40, 41). For example, the emerging occurrence of the Homo genus at ~2 Ma in the region coincided with a large increase in mammals adapted to grazing and arid conditions (41). Both events appear to be synchronous with the abrupt cooling and productivity increase of the BC at 2.1 to 1.9 Ma." |
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More info on African climate and its relationship to hominid
evolution: African climate change and faunal evolution during the Pliocene-Pleistocene Peter B. deMenocal Earth and Planetary Science Letters 220 (2004) pp. 3-24 Daryl Krupa |