Various Topics on BMW

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<adder1969@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1147440604.506730.319160@i39g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>
> Mike G wrote:
>>
>> Thank you Dave, but it's not really my fault you know. :-)
>> Problem is that baught looks more right to me than bought, so I don't
>> notice
>> it in the way I normally notice spelling mistakes.
>> If I were picked up on it more frequently maybe I could get out of the
>> habit.
>
> To me I see "au" as either "oh" as in french, or "ow" as in german.
>
> Naught for example up north is pronounced "nowt" and you'll find that
> southern England words have more in leeping with French pronounciation
> while northern words are more in keeping with German and Scandinavian.

Yup, due to the influence of the Vikings in central and northern england,
and the Normans in the south.
We're really just a motley bunch of mongrels. :-)
Not that I know much about english history.

Just a thaught, spelled with an 'a' you'll notice. As is fraught and caught,
so why bought with an 'o'?
The pronunciation is similar
Mike.

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Jack wrote:
> I just think that being overly fussy about the cosmetic appearance of
> something like a brake disc is silly and just raises the prices for
> everyone.
>

You seem to be the minority here Jack.

It's not cosmetic. They are either manufactured (or remanufactured)
WRONG. The two plates that make up the ventilated disk are supposed to
be pf the same thickness. The brakes will not operate correctly when
the get hot otherwise.

Brakes are not a bling-bling cosmetic part. They are probably the
greatest single safety feature effecting how the car will be operated.

I would never put **** brake parts like the rotors in those pictures on
any car (even yours).

Oh, and I don't see how accepting garbage parts at full price somehow
lowers the price of parts for others. It just encourages ****py part
sellers to continue to sell ****py parts.


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-Fred W

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DCA wrote:

>
> Actually - on the OP subject of discs, I note many responses are going
> on about the fact the inside and outside sections of the disc are not
> equal thickness. As far as I know - this is not necessarily wrong. I
> haven't played much on BMW's yet as up to recently I was a VW man - but
> some Gold models have this and when this is the case, the inner brake
> pad is smaller implying that the inner calliper applies less pressure
> than the outer - meaning less wear and therefore thinner disc section.

Huh? Care to explain the physics of that feat? The caliper squeezes
the disk (rotor) between the two pads.

Also, if the pad is of a smaller size, given the equal pressure applied
on either side of the disk, the pressure per square inch would actually
be higher causing friction and heat generated to be more concentrated.

But to get back to the OPs BMW brake design, I am 100% certain that the
two halves are intended to be the same thickness. That way the will
expand and contract equally.


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-Fred W

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Just to be clear Fred

I did say that I would return these parts if they were warped or if the
thickness asymmetry was not per spec.

I also said that I would not return them for cosmetic reasons such as greasy
fingerprints, crumpled boxes, or evidence of being previously installed.

Have a nice day.


"Fred W" <Malt_Hound@*spam-me-not*yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Jack wrote:
>> I just think that being overly fussy about the cosmetic appearance of
>> something like a brake disc is silly and just raises the prices for
>> everyone.
>>
>
> You seem to be the minority here Jack.
>
> It's not cosmetic. They are either manufactured (or remanufactured)
> WRONG. The two plates that make up the ventilated disk are supposed to be
> pf the same thickness. The brakes will not operate correctly when the get
> hot otherwise.
>
> Brakes are not a bling-bling cosmetic part. They are probably the
> greatest single safety feature effecting how the car will be operated.
>
> I would never put **** brake parts like the rotors in those pictures on
> any car (even yours).
>
> Oh, and I don't see how accepting garbage parts at full price somehow
> lowers the price of parts for others. It just encourages ****py part
> sellers to continue to sell ****py parts.
>
>
> --
> -Fred W

..der19.. ..hoo.co...

Mike G wrote:
>
> Just a thaught, spelled with an 'a' you'll notice. As is fraught and caught,
> so why bought with an 'o'?
> The pronunciation is similar
> Mike.

Because one or more of us motley bunch who thought maybe they could
write wrote it down wrong and it's stuck ever since. Some words are
spread by the written word so they look the same but sound different
and others are spread by speach so they sound the same but look
different.

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Jack wrote:
> Just to be clear Fred
>
> I did say that I would return these parts if they were warped or if the
> thickness asymmetry was not per spec.
>
> I also said that I would not return them for cosmetic reasons such as greasy
> fingerprints, crumpled boxes, or evidence of being previously installed.

OK, gotcha. Same here.

>
> Have a nice day.
>

U2

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-Fred W

..der19.. ..hoo.co...

Jack wrote:
> Just to be clear Fred
>
> I did say that I would return these parts if they were warped or if the
> thickness asymmetry was not per spec.
>


Ok, I got some new new discs from brakeparts.co.uk today (they should
have arrived yesterday). They look new with cellophane over them
although the packaging in general is a bit battered. The faces are
perfectly flat with the usual small lines on and they make the delphi
ones look like they were made in backstreet turkish shed.

However, there's still the difference in thickness between the inner
and outer face. I think I'm happy to fit them but I guess if they warp
I'll know to go to BMW next time. I usually go to the dealer for discs
and this is the first time I've skimped.

Incidentally buypartsby.co.uk said they'll take their Delphi discs back
but so far I haven't been refunded so that'll be another thing I have
to keep an eye on.

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In article <1147772059.434667.146380@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups .com>,
<adder1969@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> However, there's still the difference in thickness between the inner
> and outer face. I think I'm happy to fit them but I guess if they warp
> I'll know to go to BMW next time. I usually go to the dealer for discs
> and this is the first time I've skimped.

I always get ATE discs from Eurocarparts. They are OEM makers and the
replacements seem identical to BMW ones (as you'd expect), but much
cheaper. I've fitted many sets across the years without problems. Except
that they don't last any longer than BMW ones. ;-(

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