Various Topics on C++

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I cannot afford a modern PC, so I'm looking for C++ on tape for the
ZX81.Where can I find it?

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Ted Harvard wrote:
> I cannot afford a modern PC, so I'm looking for C++ on tape for the
> ZX81.Where can I find it?

How are you posting here?
Anyway, try Google, but I think the zx81 runs on a z80. I tried finding a
C++ compiler for the z80 a few months ago, but no luck. There was several C
compilers, though.

- Pete

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rest_ampere@yahoo.com (Ted Harvard) wrote in message news:<f89143b2.0406190146.57dcd9af@posting.google. com>...
> I cannot afford a modern PC, so I'm looking for C++ on tape for the
> ZX81.Where can I find it?

The only one of which I'm aware is written in Java, so as soon as you
find a JVM for the ZX81, you're all set.
Later,
Jerry.

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Ted Harvard wrote:
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> I cannot afford a modern PC, so I'm looking for C++ on tape for the
> ZX81.Where can I find it?

If you can't afford a 'modern' pc, then you shouldn't be programming.

Programming *requires* a high level of commitment which includes the necessary
$$ to be able to purchase the necessary tools.

Either make the necessary commitments, or choose something else to do w/ your
time.

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Julie wrote:

>> I cannot afford a modern PC, so I'm looking for C++ on tape for the
>> ZX81.Where can I find it?
> If you can't afford a 'modern' pc, then you shouldn't be programming.

Why? You can be perfectly happy programming an old machine of the 80' in
some interpreted Basic, for example.

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Salu2

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Julie posted:

> Ted Harvard wrote:
>>
>> I cannot afford a modern PC, so I'm looking for C++ on tape for the
>> ZX81.Where can I find it?
>
> If you can't afford a 'modern' pc, then you shouldn't be programming.
>
> Programming *requires* a high level of commitment which includes the
> necessary $$ to be able to purchase the necessary tools.
>
> Either make the necessary commitments, or choose something else to do
> w/ your time.


The C++ Standard defines no such terms as:

modern pc
a high level of commitment
$$

-JKop

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Julie wrote:
> Ted Harvard wrote:
>>
>> I cannot afford a modern PC, so I'm looking for C++ on tape for the
>> ZX81.Where can I find it?
>
> If you can't afford a 'modern' pc, then you shouldn't be programming.
>
> Programming *requires* a high level of commitment which includes the
> necessary $$ to be able to purchase the necessary tools.
>
> Either make the necessary commitments, or choose something else to do
> w/ your time.

Why not? People used to get along fine with computers that had less power
than a modern $10 pocket calculator.
Old computers can do just as much as when they were made; they don't
magically deteriorate in processing power.

- Pete

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"Pete C." <x@x.x> wrote...
> Julie wrote:
> > Ted Harvard wrote:
> >>
> >> I cannot afford a modern PC, so I'm looking for C++ on tape for the
> >> ZX81.Where can I find it?
> >
> > If you can't afford a 'modern' pc, then you shouldn't be programming.
> >
> > Programming *requires* a high level of commitment which includes the
> > necessary $$ to be able to purchase the necessary tools.
> >
> > Either make the necessary commitments, or choose something else to do
> > w/ your time.
>
> Why not? People used to get along fine with computers that had less power
> than a modern $10 pocket calculator.

Not using Standard C++ language.

> Old computers can do just as much as when they were made; they don't
> magically deteriorate in processing power.

They don't by themselves. But you cannot consider computers outside
the context of using them with certain tools. I can program in C++
using Zortech C++ circa 1991 on a PC/AT of similar vintage, but I would
not be programming in C++ as it is known and used today.

Common mistake (IMNSHO) made often in Usenet discussions is giving
excessively generic statements in a conversation that starts about
something pretty concrete and limited in scope. Can one learn to
program on a Sinclair? Definitely. Can one learn to use C++ Templates
in their full capacity on a Sinclair? I strongly doubt that. One does
need a modern compiler for that and most (if not all) modern compilers
require pretty modern hardware/OS setup to be used.

What a Sinclair could be used for is to serve as a remote terminal to
a machine elsewhere. One would need a modem and a phone line for that
(and, no, I am not sure Sinclair had a modem, but I believe it could
have one).

V

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Ted Harvard wrote:
> I cannot afford a modern PC, so I'm looking for C++ on tape for the
> ZX81.Where can I find it?

Does anyone else think this was a red herring?

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Something that calls itself Ted Harvard wrote:

> I cannot afford a modern PC, so I'm looking for C++ on tape for the
> ZX81.Where can I find it?

This is an obvious troll.
Please ignore it.

Notice that it was originally cross posted to alt.mythe.