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Old 06-12-2004   #1
..m
 
Default filenames with exotic characters

Hi,

I'd like to put some holiday photographs on a CD-ROM for my mother. We
altered the filenames to give a short description about the picture.

I changed the names and now I have files with some non-US characters
in it (like Czech, Chinese, Russian,... characters). On the
filesystem, everything is ok, but I am unable to write those files to
a disk (I'd need unicode, I guess).
I'm using an English version of Win2k and have tried writing the files
to CD with Nero 6.3, but always get the following error:
File/Folder cannot be accessed from specified path: ...

I've found some info on
http://www.cdrlabs.com/phpBB/viewtop...?p=35288#35288, but it
didn't work in my case :-(

Does anybody know how to do this?


Cheers,
Tim
 
Old 06-13-2004   #2
..i.. ..
 
Default Re: filenames with exotic characters

On 06/12/2004 4:22 PM Tim consulted a Magic 8 Ball and declared:

>Hi,
>
>I'd like to put some holiday photographs on a CD-ROM for my mother. We
>altered the filenames to give a short description about the picture.
>
>I changed the names and now I have files with some non-US characters
>in it (like Czech, Chinese, Russian,... characters). On the
>filesystem, everything is ok, but I am unable to write those files to
>a disk (I'd need unicode, I guess).
>I'm using an English version of Win2k and have tried writing the files
>to CD with Nero 6.3, but always get the following error:
> File/Folder cannot be accessed from specified path: ...
>
>I've found some info on
>http://www.cdrlabs.com/phpBB/viewtop...?p=35288#35288, but it
>didn't work in my case :-(
>
>Does anybody know how to do this?
>
>
>Cheers,
>Tim
>
>

Tim have you run Scandisk against the drive where these "foreign" files
reside? I'm guessing that what you are dealing with is corrupt file
headers due to a bad sector. Run Scandisk under DOS, or Norton
DiskDoctor if you have it. Select the thorough mode. It may take a
while, so have a good book or magazine handy. After this, try renaming
the files to something simple with 8 characters and the appropriate 3
character extension. Be sure that the "Read Only" bit is not turned on
or you may not be able to change the file names.

--
________
To email me, Edit "xt" from my email address.
Brian M. Kochera
"Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once!"
View My Web Page: http://home.earthlink.net/~brian1951

 
Old 06-13-2004   #3
..h
 
Default Re: filenames with exotic characters

' --------------------------------------
Mike Richter, were you born with
"Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face?
--------------------------------------
(Mike Richter, any Material Connection w/ Roxio?)

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...mindspring.com
(Messages 10, 12 -- 34, 54 -- 69)

( No pipsqueaks have been able to prove ANY of the above is a libel )
( -- despite Mikey's supposed to have proof of misquotes !!! )


Tim wrote:
>
> I'd like to put some holiday photographs on a CD-ROM for my mother. We
> altered the filenames to give a short description about the picture.
>
> I changed the names and now I have files with some non-US characters
> in it (like Czech, Chinese, Russian,... characters).


How did you rename the files, by typing in or by copy&paste from some
application?

> On the
> filesystem, everything is ok,


How do the filenames appear in Explorer? Do they have narrow vertical
block symbols in them?

> but I am unable to write those files to
> a disk (I'd need unicode, I guess).
> I'm using an English version of Win2k and have tried writing the files
> to CD with Nero 6.3, but always get the following error:
> File/Folder cannot be accessed from specified path: ...


That could be caused by as "Brian K" mentioned, or by if some characters
in filenames are in 2-byte code.

>
> I've found some info on
> http://www.cdrlabs.com/phpBB/viewtop...?p=35288#35288, but it
> didn't work in my case :-(
>
> Does anybody know how to do this?
>
> Cheers,
> Tim

 
Old 06-13-2004   #4
..m
 
Default Re: filenames with exotic characters

On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 00:04:35 GMT, Brian K <brianxt1951@earthlink.net>
wrote:

>On 06/12/2004 4:22 PM Tim consulted a Magic 8 Ball and declared:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I'd like to put some holiday photographs on a CD-ROM for my mother. We
>>altered the filenames to give a short description about the picture.
>>
>>I changed the names and now I have files with some non-US characters
>>in it (like Czech, Chinese, Russian,... characters). On the
>>filesystem, everything is ok, but I am unable to write those files to
>>a disk (I'd need unicode, I guess).
>>I'm using an English version of Win2k and have tried writing the files
>>to CD with Nero 6.3, but always get the following error:
>> File/Folder cannot be accessed from specified path: ...
>>
>>I've found some info on
>>http://www.cdrlabs.com/phpBB/viewtop...?p=35288#35288, but it
>>didn't work in my case :-(
>>
>>Does anybody know how to do this?
>>
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Tim
>>
>>

>Tim have you run Scandisk against the drive where these "foreign" files
>reside? I'm guessing that what you are dealing with is corrupt file
>headers due to a bad sector. Run Scandisk under DOS, or Norton
>DiskDoctor if you have it. Select the thorough mode. It may take a
>while, so have a good book or magazine handy. After this, try renaming
>the files to something simple with 8 characters and the appropriate 3
>character extension. Be sure that the "Read Only" bit is not turned on
>or you may not be able to change the file names.




Hi Brian,

I didn't scan the drive before, but did now. No problems.

The files are OK though, renaming them to a simple file name works,
but the thing is that those were taken in Prague and (parts of) the
filenames are in Czech.
It must be possible to write such files to disk, since Czech people
can create disks as well ;-p


Cheers,
Tim
 
Old 06-13-2004   #5
..m
 
Default Re: filenames with exotic characters

On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 19:17:22 -0700, smh <smhong@mindspring.com> wrote:

>> I'd like to put some holiday photographs on a CD-ROM for my mother. We
>> altered the filenames to give a short description about the picture.
>>
>> I changed the names and now I have files with some non-US characters
>> in it (like Czech, Chinese, Russian,... characters).

>
>How did you rename the files, by typing in or by copy&paste from some
>application?


Actually, they were typed in in a spreadsheet, exported to csv and
then I renamed the files in batch. No problem if one chooses a font
that supports all the 'special' characters.
The files were renamed and all is writen as it is suposed to be in
Czech.

>> On the
>> filesystem, everything is ok,

>
>How do the filenames appear in Explorer? Do they have narrow vertical
>block symbols in them?


No, the filenames are written in proper Czech.

>> but I am unable to write those files to
>> a disk (I'd need unicode, I guess).
>> I'm using an English version of Win2k and have tried writing the files
>> to CD with Nero 6.3, but always get the following error:
>> File/Folder cannot be accessed from specified path: ...

>
>That could be caused by as "Brian K" mentioned, or by if some characters
>in filenames are in 2-byte code.


Some characters must be in 2-byte code, so being able to write a disk
with filenames in unicode should solve the problem, but that's not
possible, I think.
But since Czech people can write disks, I need to find the differences
between their setup and mine.

>> I've found some info on
>> http://www.cdrlabs.com/phpBB/viewtop...?p=35288#35288, but it
>> didn't work in my case :-(


Here is a possible way described (changing locale,...), but it doesn't
work when I try to do this.


Cheers,
Tim
 
Old 06-13-2004   #6
..h
 
Default Re: filenames with exotic characters

' --------------------------------------
Mike Richter, were you born with
"Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face?
--------------------------------------
(Mike Richter, any Material Connection w/ Roxio?)

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...mindspring.com
(Messages 10, 12 -- 34, 54 -- 69)

( No pipsqueaks have been able to prove ANY of the above is a libel )
( -- despite Mikey's supposed to have proof of misquotes !!! )


Tim wrote:
> smh wrote:
>
> >> I'd like to put some holiday photographs on a CD-ROM for my mother. We
> >> altered the filenames to give a short description about the picture.
> >>
> >> I changed the names and now I have files with some non-US characters
> >> in it (like Czech, Chinese, Russian,... characters).

> >
> >How did you rename the files, by typing in or by copy&paste from some
> >application?

>
> Actually, they were typed in in a spreadsheet, exported to csv and
> then I renamed the files in batch. No problem if one chooses a font
> that supports all the 'special' characters.
> The files were renamed and all is writen as it is suposed to be in
> Czech.
>
> >> On the
> >> filesystem, everything is ok,

> >
> >How do the filenames appear in Explorer? Do they have narrow vertical
> >block symbols in them?

>
> No, the filenames are written in proper Czech.
>
> >> but I am unable to write those files to
> >> a disk (I'd need unicode, I guess).
> >> I'm using an English version of Win2k and have tried writing the files
> >> to CD with Nero 6.3, but always get the following error:
> >> File/Folder cannot be accessed from specified path: ...

> >
> >That could be caused by as "Brian K" mentioned, or by if some characters
> >in filenames are in 2-byte code.

>
> Some characters must be in 2-byte code, so being able to write a disk
> with filenames in unicode should solve the problem, but that's not
> possible, I think.
> But since Czech people can write disks, I need to find the differences
> between their setup and mine.
>
> >> I've found some info on
> >> http://www.cdrlabs.com/phpBB/viewtop...?p=35288#35288, but it
> >> didn't work in my case :-(

>
> Here is a possible way described (changing locale,...), but it doesn't
> work when I try to do this.


Joliet spec calls for 2-byte Unicode for names. So the capability is
there - as your Czech people "proved". Maybe both Windows and burn
software must be in Czech?
 
Old 06-13-2004   #7
..i.. ..
 
Default Re: filenames with exotic characters

On 06/13/2004 10:17 AM Tim consulted a Magic 8 Ball and declared:

>On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 00:04:35 GMT, Brian K <brianxt1951@earthlink.net>
>wrote:
>
>
>
>>On 06/12/2004 4:22 PM Tim consulted a Magic 8 Ball and declared:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>I'd like to put some holiday photographs on a CD-ROM for my mother. We
>>>altered the filenames to give a short description about the picture.
>>>
>>>I changed the names and now I have files with some non-US characters
>>>in it (like Czech, Chinese, Russian,... characters). On the
>>>filesystem, everything is ok, but I am unable to write those files to
>>>a disk (I'd need unicode, I guess).
>>>I'm using an English version of Win2k and have tried writing the files
>>>to CD with Nero 6.3, but always get the following error:
>>> File/Folder cannot be accessed from specified path: ...
>>>
>>>I've found some info on
>>>http://www.cdrlabs.com/phpBB/viewtop...?p=35288#35288, but it
>>>didn't work in my case :-(
>>>
>>>Does anybody know how to do this?
>>>
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Tim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>Tim have you run Scandisk against the drive where these "foreign" files
>>reside? I'm guessing that what you are dealing with is corrupt file
>>headers due to a bad sector. Run Scandisk under DOS, or Norton
>>DiskDoctor if you have it. Select the thorough mode. It may take a
>>while, so have a good book or magazine handy. After this, try renaming
>>the files to something simple with 8 characters and the appropriate 3
>>character extension. Be sure that the "Read Only" bit is not turned on
>>or you may not be able to change the file names.
>>
>>

>
>
>
>Hi Brian,
>
>I didn't scan the drive before, but did now. No problems.
>
>The files are OK though, renaming them to a simple file name works,
>but the thing is that those were taken in Prague and (parts of) the
>filenames are in Czech.
>It must be possible to write such files to disk, since Czech people
>can create disks as well ;-p
>
>
>Cheers,
>Tim
>
>

Unless you plan on giving the disks to someone who speaks only czech,
I'd go with the simple file names. The bottom line is to be able to
burn the files to disk, right? One quick workaround is use simple file
names and include in the files to be burned an web file that references
all the files on the cd with czech file names that display for each
file link. Then someone who speaks only czech can load the html file in
their browser and use it to call the other files.

--
________
To email me, Edit "xt" from my email address.
Brian M. Kochera
"Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once!"
View My Web Page: http://home.earthlink.net/~brian1951

 
Old 06-14-2004   #8
 
Default Re: filenames with exotic characters

In article <k9pmc0p680t051okk714ui0jn34mtb9lsf@4ax.com>,
tim@NOSPAM.invalid says...
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to put some holiday photographs on a CD-ROM for my mother. We
> altered the filenames to give a short description about the picture.
>
> I changed the names and now I have files with some non-US characters
> in it (like Czech, Chinese, Russian,... characters). On the
> filesystem, everything is ok, but I am unable to write those files to
> a disk (I'd need unicode, I guess).
> I'm using an English version of Win2k and have tried writing the files
> to CD with Nero 6.3, but always get the following error:
> File/Folder cannot be accessed from specified path: ...
>
> I've found some info on
> http://www.cdrlabs.com/phpBB/viewtop...?p=35288#35288, but it
> didn't work in my case :-(
>
> Does anybody know how to do this?
>
>
> Cheers,
> Tim
>

You need to use a CDR authoring program that support the Joliet file
system, and make sure that you are creating a Joliet disc.

http://bmrc.berkeley.edu/people/chaffee/jolspec.html

---Matthew
 
Old 06-16-2004   #9
..m
 
Default Re: filenames with exotic characters

On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 19:37:07 GMT, Brian K <brianxt1951@earthlink.net>
wrote:

<snip>

>>>>I'd like to put some holiday photographs on a CD-ROM for my mother. We
>>>>altered the filenames to give a short description about the picture.
>>>>
>>>>I changed the names and now I have files with some non-US characters
>>>>in it (like Czech, Chinese, Russian,... characters). On the
>>>>filesystem, everything is ok, but I am unable to write those files to
>>>>a disk (I'd need unicode, I guess).
>>>>I'm using an English version of Win2k and have tried writing the files
>>>>to CD with Nero 6.3, but always get the following error:
>>>> File/Folder cannot be accessed from specified path: ...
>>>>
>>>>I've found some info on
>>>>http://www.cdrlabs.com/phpBB/viewtop...?p=35288#35288, but it
>>>>didn't work in my case :-(


<snip>

>>>Tim have you run Scandisk against the drive where these "foreign" files
>>>reside? I'm guessing that what you are dealing with is corrupt file
>>>headers due to a bad sector. Run Scandisk under DOS, or Norton
>>>DiskDoctor if you have it. Select the thorough mode. It may take a
>>>while, so have a good book or magazine handy. After this, try renaming
>>>the files to something simple with 8 characters and the appropriate 3
>>>character extension. Be sure that the "Read Only" bit is not turned on
>>>or you may not be able to change the file names.
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>
>>Hi Brian,
>>
>>I didn't scan the drive before, but did now. No problems.
>>
>>The files are OK though, renaming them to a simple file name works,
>>but the thing is that those were taken in Prague and (parts of) the
>>filenames are in Czech.
>>It must be possible to write such files to disk, since Czech people
>>can create disks as well ;-p
>>
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Tim
>>
>>

>Unless you plan on giving the disks to someone who speaks only czech,
>I'd go with the simple file names. The bottom line is to be able to
>burn the files to disk, right? One quick workaround is use simple file
>names and include in the files to be burned an web file that references
>all the files on the cd with czech file names that display for each
>file link. Then someone who speaks only czech can load the html file in
>their browser and use it to call the other files.


I know, it might be silly, but it is possible, so I want to be able to
do it ;-)

I'm getting closer though. I managed to burn a disk, now I'm waiting
for my mother to check whether it's ok. I'll post back with the
results!

Thanks for the help,
Tim
 
Old 06-16-2004   #10
..m
 
Default Re: filenames with exotic characters

On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 12:35:17 -0700, smh <smhong@mindspring.com> wrote:

<snip>

>> >> I'd like to put some holiday photographs on a CD-ROM for my mother. We
>> >> altered the filenames to give a short description about the picture.
>> >>
>> >> I changed the names and now I have files with some non-US characters
>> >> in it (like Czech, Chinese, Russian,... characters).
>> >
>> >How did you rename the files, by typing in or by copy&paste from some
>> >application?

>>
>> Actually, they were typed in in a spreadsheet, exported to csv and
>> then I renamed the files in batch. No problem if one chooses a font
>> that supports all the 'special' characters.
>> The files were renamed and all is writen as it is suposed to be in
>> Czech.
>>
>> >> On the
>> >> filesystem, everything is ok,
>> >
>> >How do the filenames appear in Explorer? Do they have narrow vertical
>> >block symbols in them?

>>
>> No, the filenames are written in proper Czech.
>>
>> >> but I am unable to write those files to
>> >> a disk (I'd need unicode, I guess).
>> >> I'm using an English version of Win2k and have tried writing the files
>> >> to CD with Nero 6.3, but always get the following error:
>> >> File/Folder cannot be accessed from specified path: ...
>> >
>> >That could be caused by as "Brian K" mentioned, or by if some characters
>> >in filenames are in 2-byte code.

>>
>> Some characters must be in 2-byte code, so being able to write a disk
>> with filenames in unicode should solve the problem, but that's not
>> possible, I think.
>> But since Czech people can write disks, I need to find the differences
>> between their setup and mine.
>>
>> >> I've found some info on
>> >> http://www.cdrlabs.com/phpBB/viewtop...?p=35288#35288, but it
>> >> didn't work in my case :-(

>>
>> Here is a possible way described (changing locale,...), but it doesn't
>> work when I try to do this.

>
>Joliet spec calls for 2-byte Unicode for names. So the capability is
>there - as your Czech people "proved". Maybe both Windows and burn
>software must be in Czech?


I'm getting there (I think/hope), just have to check. I'll let you
know when I've got some results (or lack of ;-)


Thanks for the help,
Tim
 

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