Various Topics on Chrysler

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There are 2006 Pontiac GTO's too. Lots and lots of them. I guess I have to
agree with you - I've never seen anything quite like it either. The GTO is a
really great car, but the styling is too boring. I guess the crossfire has
the opposite problem, its styling isn't boring enough.

I feel comfortable saying the reason people didn't buy crossfires wasn't
because it was a bad car. It's bound to be a great car. It's just that the
market for a 2-seater non-convertible is pretty limited, and it's kind of
high-priced. They build too many.

The Sky and Solstice have been fun to watch - they've decide not to build
enough of them. Our dealer in my town has never actually had one for sale.
They pre-sell them all.

"Mister Bear" <MisterBear07@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:27969-46C0BB06-75@storefull-3317.bay.webtv.net...
>I suppose I set myself up for wisecrack comebacks when I asked WHY new
> 2006 Crossfires are still at dealerships. I have never run into a
> similar situation before. The question is why haven't 2 year old new
> 2006 Crossfires sold? Bad car? Too expensive? Supply problem? When
> new cars remain unsold this long, there's has to be a story behind it.
>
> In contrast, the new Saturn Sky has generally had a waiting list for
> availability. A new '08 Sky at full list price can be had way cheaper
> than most new 2006 Crossfires sold at deep 5-figure discounts. This is
> just plain strange.
>
> Mister B
>

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On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 21:19:00 -0400, "Joe" <Joe@dontspam.net> wrote:

>
>I feel comfortable saying the reason people didn't buy crossfires wasn't
>because it was a bad car. It's bound to be a great car. It's just that the
>market for a 2-seater non-convertible is pretty limited, and it's kind of
>high-priced. They build too many.
>

The market was further limited by the fact that only a midget could
buy the car. I'm 6' and a tad over 200 and couldn't fit in the damn
thing... Had to bend my head sideways and look at the pillar at the
top of the windshield.

Why would they build a car that attracts men and then make it so a man
can't fit in it? I've been in plenty of cars that weren't comfortable
but not many that I just plain couldn't fit in to.

Steve B.

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In article <46C0E5C1.3B1D2FFB@cac.net>, philthy <dbrider@cac.net>
wrote:

> it's a small german 2 seater car that was way overpriced for what it is
> trying to be sold in a american market that did not want it and did i
> mention it sucks in the snow

So it's a poor car for this market, plus it was overpriced?
No wonder it tanked.
This YAHOO comment says a lot:
> Cons: BLINDSPOTS!, stereo system could be better, no cupholders

In NA you MUST HAVE LOTS OF CUP HOLDERS DL!

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In article <5q64c3hljcaluv9ojbf32p02jen4gdrkvf@4ax.com>,
Steve B. <none@none.com> wrote:

> Why would they build a car that attracts men and then make it so a man
> can't fit in it? I've been in plenty of cars that weren't comfortable
> but not many that I just plain couldn't fit in to.

So it's sized for ladies or Asian men?
THX, then I wouldn't fit either, so I won't be taking one off Chryslers
hands.

.... ..tn..

who wrote:
> In article <5q64c3hljcaluv9ojbf32p02jen4gdrkvf@4ax.com>,
> Steve B. <none@none.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Why would they build a car that attracts men and then make it so a man
>>can't fit in it? I've been in plenty of cars that weren't comfortable
>>but not many that I just plain couldn't fit in to.
>
>
> So it's sized for ladies or Asian men?...

Chrysler in fact may have realized that, judging from the TV commercial
- remember the TV commercial in which the Asian kid is sitting at home
mumbling to himself while his dad is out shopping for a new car - he's
thinking his dad will bring home some lame car. Then his dad, wearing a
sports cap and looking super cool, pulls into the driveway in a new
Crossfire, and the kid goes "Woah - dad!!"?

Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
address with the letter 'x')

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Joe wrote:

> There are 2006 Pontiac GTO's too. Lots and lots of them. I guess I have to
> agree with you - I've never seen anything quite like it e

And in that case, its because GM made it look so much like a Grand Prix
that nobody notices them. What a mess- the new GTO (Holden) is a
wonderful ch***is, screwed over by wretched styling.

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Steve B. wrote:

> On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 21:19:00 -0400, "Joe" <Joe@dontspam.net> wrote:
>
>
>>I feel comfortable saying the reason people didn't buy crossfires wasn't
>>because it was a bad car. It's bound to be a great car.

Why would you say that? Its ALL Mercedes under the skin, and they've
been **** lately.

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> > So it's sized for ladies or Asian men?...

In article <5ig1c4F3mjrahU1@mid.individual.net>,
Bill Putney <bptn@kinez.net> wrote:
>
> Chrysler in fact may have realized that, judging from the TV commercial
> - remember the TV commercial in which the Asian kid is sitting at home
> mumbling to himself while his dad is out shopping for a new car - he's
> thinking his dad will bring home some lame car. Then his dad, wearing a
> sports cap and looking super cool, pulls into the driveway in a new
> Crossfire, and the kid goes "Woah - dad!!"?

Like the '96 Cirrus which I found just wrong for me. The steering wheel
was to far away when the seat was correct for my legs.
A kind Chrysler salesman told me to forget it, as it only fits shorter
people like Asian men.

I have this same problem with the Toyota Corolla. A telescoping
steering would solve this problem, but they don't want too many people
to buy below their income capability.

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who wrote:

>>>So it's sized for ladies or Asian men?...
>
>
> In article <5ig1c4F3mjrahU1@mid.individual.net>,
> Bill Putney <bptn@kinez.net> wrote:
>
>>Chrysler in fact may have realized that, judging from the TV commercial
>>- remember the TV commercial in which the Asian kid is sitting at home
>>mumbling to himself while his dad is out shopping for a new car - he's
>>thinking his dad will bring home some lame car. Then his dad, wearing a
>>sports cap and looking super cool, pulls into the driveway in a new
>>Crossfire, and the kid goes "Woah - dad!!"?
>
>
> Like the '96 Cirrus which I found just wrong for me. The steering wheel
> was to far away when the seat was correct for my legs.
> A kind Chrysler salesman told me to forget it, as it only fits shorter
> people like Asian men.
>

The reason for that is the airbag. In order to keep the airbag a "safe"
distance from the shorter end of the range of people likely to ever
drive a car (who also happen to be the most likely to be injured by a
bag because they're also lighter), they put the wheel far away. I HATE
having my arms straight out when driving, but all modern cars are that
way, its nearly impossible to get the cl***ic driving position of elbows
bent down by your ribs anymore.

But they are now including the lifetime powertrain warranty on the 06's.
"Steve" <no@spam.thanks> wrote in message
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> Mister Bear wrote:
>
>> I suppose I set myself up for wisecrack comebacks when I asked WHY new
>> 2006 Crossfires are still at dealerships. I have never run into a
>> similar situation before. The question is why haven't 2 year old new
>> 2006 Crossfires sold? Bad car? Too expensive? Supply problem? When
>> new cars remain unsold this long, there's has to be a story behind it.
>>
>> In contrast, the new Saturn Sky has generally had a waiting list for
>> availability. A new '08 Sky at full list price can be had way cheaper
>> than most new 2006 Crossfires sold at deep 5-figure discounts. This is
>> just plain strange.
>> Mister B
>>
>
>
> They built too many for the demand. Its styling is extreme enough to have
> very limited appeal, and combined with a potentially tempermental and
> expensive to maintain Mercedes drivetrain, and it lacked enough
> performance to be attractive except for the turbo version (which was even
> MORE expensive). The Prowler had even more extreme styling, but was more
> attractive, had more base performance, and did it with a very simple and
> dead-nuts reliable Chrysler drivetrain borrowed from the LH cars. More
> importantly, they did a better job of predicting the Prowler demand and
> didn't build so many of them.
>