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Old 06-17-2004   #1
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Default The CALORIE confusion in Atkins book.

In Dr Atkins book, "New Diet Revolution", (Chapter 2, "Understanding Some
Basics") he make the following statement: First, a calorie is simply a unit
of energy-precisely the amount of heat needed to raise I gram of water 1
degree Celsius at sea level. This definition is used in physics and
chemistry, not in diet calorie counting.



Unfortunately, he goes on talking about this calorie with respect to
nutritional calories. He does not explain that the calories used to measure
the energy in food is the Kilocalorie (1,000) calories. I made this error
when I was around 12 years old and figured a dieter could burn calories just
by drinking cool water and letting the body warm it to body temperature.
That would use a lot of calories. Then I learned that dieticians use the
kilo calorie and simply refer to it as a calorie. I only skimmed the book
so I don't know if Atkins explained the differences somewhere or if he make
a mistake. Maybe he does not know the difference.




 
Old 06-17-2004   #2
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In misc.health.diabetes CloseEncounter <close_encounter@nospam.net> wrote:
>In Dr Atkins book, "New Diet Revolution", (Chapter 2, "Understanding Some
>Basics") he make the following statement: First, a calorie is simply a unit
>of energy-precisely the amount of heat needed to raise I gram of water 1
>degree Celsius at sea level. This definition is used in physics and
>chemistry, not in diet calorie counting.


>Unfortunately, he goes on talking about this calorie with respect to
>nutritional calories. He does not explain that the calories used to measure
>the energy in food is the Kilocalorie (1,000) calories. I made this error
>when I was around 12 years old and figured a dieter could burn calories just
>by drinking cool water and letting the body warm it to body temperature.
>That would use a lot of calories. Then I learned that dieticians use the
>kilo calorie and simply refer to it as a calorie. I only skimmed the book
>so I don't know if Atkins explained the differences somewhere or if he make
>a mistake. Maybe he does not know the difference.


I don't understand the point of this post. You didn't pay attention when
you read a book so you're uncertain what the author said. Are you telling
us this about yourself for some reason?

I guess you want a response, so here goes: If you want to remember what
is included in a book, my suggestion is that you pay attention when you
read it and not just skim.

Hope this helps!

Priscilla
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Old 06-18-2004   #3
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"CloseEncounter" <close_encounter@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:J0oAc.26904$Di3.4779@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> In Dr Atkins book, "New Diet Revolution", (Chapter 2, "Understanding Some
> Basics") he make the following statement: First, a calorie is simply a

unit
> of energy-precisely the amount of heat needed to raise I gram of water 1
> degree Celsius at sea level. This definition is used in physics and
> chemistry, not in diet calorie counting.
>
>
>
> Unfortunately, he goes on talking about this calorie with respect to
> nutritional calories. He does not explain that the calories used to

measure
> the energy in food is the Kilocalorie (1,000) calories. I made this error
> when I was around 12 years old and figured a dieter could burn calories

just
> by drinking cool water and letting the body warm it to body temperature.
> That would use a lot of calories. Then I learned that dieticians use the
> kilo calorie and simply refer to it as a calorie. I only skimmed the book
> so I don't know if Atkins explained the differences somewhere or if he

make
> a mistake. Maybe he does not know the difference.


I do vaguely remember doing an experiment in science cl*** where we burned
various things, comparing their burning point to a control substance (can't
remember what that was, but I'm thinking bread) to determine how many
calories they contained. I have never heard the theory of drinking cool
water to burn calories. I do know that the body burns more calories when it
is in a cold environment, however the amount is only slightly more and not
enough to amount to any weight loss.

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Old 06-18-2004   #4
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"Priscilla H Ballou" <phb@shell01.TheWorld.com> wrote in message
news:cat3cd$9t0$3@pcls4.std.com...

> I don't understand the point of this post. You didn't pay attention when
> you read a book so you're uncertain what the author said. Are you telling
> us this about yourself for some reason?
>
> I guess you want a response, so here goes: If you want to remember what
> is included in a book, my suggestion is that you pay attention when you
> read it and not just skim.
>
> Hope this helps!


I'm glad I'm not the only one who didn't understand that post.

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Old 06-18-2004   #5
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In article <10d45a6dlnqij3d@corp.supernews.com>,
"Julie Bove" <jnospambove@bestweb.net> wrote:

> "Priscilla H Ballou" <phb@shell01.TheWorld.com> wrote in message
> news:cat3cd$9t0$3@pcls4.std.com...
>
> > I don't understand the point of this post. You didn't pay attention when
> > you read a book so you're uncertain what the author said. Are you telling
> > us this about yourself for some reason?
> >
> > I guess you want a response, so here goes: If you want to remember what
> > is included in a book, my suggestion is that you pay attention when you
> > read it and not just skim.
> >
> > Hope this helps!

>
> I'm glad I'm not the only one who didn't understand that post.


I think what the OP wanted to do was criticize Atkins, but he got all
p***ive agressive and never actually came out and said what he meant.
Instead he got all mushy and ended up looking stupid. So I got snarky
in return.

Priscilla

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"This religion [Christianity] isn't for sissies." - my friend Jane

"Being in the church is sometimes like doing the Bunny Hop."
- my same friend Jane
 
Old 06-18-2004   #6
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On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 21:27:05 GMT, "CloseEncounter"
<close_encounter@nospam.net> wrote:

>In Dr Atkins book, "New Diet Revolution", (Chapter 2, "Understanding Some
>Basics") he make the following statement: First, a calorie is simply a unit
>of energy-precisely the amount of heat needed to raise I gram of water 1
>degree Celsius at sea level. This definition is used in physics and
>chemistry, not in diet calorie counting.
>
>
>
>Unfortunately, he goes on talking about this calorie with respect to
>nutritional calories. He does not explain that the calories used to measure
>the energy in food is the Kilocalorie (1,000) calories. I made this error
>when I was around 12 years old and figured a dieter could burn calories just
>by drinking cool water and letting the body warm it to body temperature.
>That would use a lot of calories. Then I learned that dieticians use the
>kilo calorie and simply refer to it as a calorie. I only skimmed the book
>so I don't know if Atkins explained the differences somewhere or if he make
>a mistake. Maybe he does not know the difference.
>


Why are you selecting only Atkins for your subject?

I have yet to read a single diet book that differentiates between
KCalories and Calories. It is still not on all commercial food
nutritional panels, some use calories, some Kcalories.

Does it really matter? Even if if pedantic twelve year olds drink more
water than normal, it won't hurt them.

Regards

David
 
Old 06-18-2004   #7
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J David Anderson <jdavidanderson_@hotmail.com> wrote on Fri, 18 Jun 2004
16:39:33 +1000:

[ .... ]

> Does it really matter? Even if if pedantic twelve year olds drink more
> water than normal, it won't hurt them.


Possibly not, but said twelve year olds might be well advised to visit a
doc ASAP and get tested for a certain medical condition. ;-)

> Regards


> David


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(like "aa"), remove half of them (leaving, say, "a").

 
Old 06-21-2004   #8
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"CloseEncounter" <close_encounter@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:J0oAc.26904$Di3.4779@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> In Dr Atkins book, "New Diet Revolution", (Chapter 2, "Understanding Some
> Basics") he make the following statement: First, a calorie is simply a

unit
> of energy-precisely the amount of heat needed to raise I gram of water 1
> degree Celsius at sea level. This definition is used in physics and
> chemistry, not in diet calorie counting.
>
>
>
> Unfortunately, he goes on talking about this calorie with respect to
> nutritional calories. He does not explain that the calories used to

measure
> the energy in food is the Kilocalorie (1,000) calories. I made this error
> when I was around 12 years old and figured a dieter could burn calories

just
> by drinking cool water and letting the body warm it to body temperature.
> That would use a lot of calories. Then I learned that dieticians use the
> kilo calorie and simply refer to it as a calorie. I only skimmed the book
> so I don't know if Atkins explained the differences somewhere or if he

make
> a mistake. Maybe he does not know the difference.


Maybe he can simply write better than you can read? Or write for that
matter. Your post didn't make a lot of sense.

Beav


 

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