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Are these units any better in performance than your typical aftermarket
foglights?
Thanks in advance

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Last I heard these are "driving" lights, not fog lights.
"dave t" <trout_trout@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Are these units any better in performance than your typical aftermarket
> foglights?
> Thanks in advance
>
>

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On Thu, 27 May 2004, dave t wrote:

> Are these units any better in performance than your typical aftermarket
> foglights?

The entire front lighting system on the new-gen Ram is godawful. The
headlamps could've/should've been much better than even the
previous-generation upgrade (Sport) lights, but Chrysler didn't spend
enough money on them and so they're garbage. The foggy lites are pretty
much the same as most of the rest of the foggy lites on North American
roads: Primarily there for dealers to make extra profit and for the
"benefit" of people who think foggy lites look kewl.

As far as the aftermarket, most aftermarket fog lamps readily available
are junk, but there are a lot of good ones out there, too. The main thing
is not to let *ANYONE'S* advertising or packaging sway you. Ask specific
questions -- a lot of them -- before you buy any lamps.

I haven't measured the size of the front fascia opening on a new-gen
Ram...wonder if a set of Cibie external-mount H4 headlamps would fit.
H'mm...

-Stern (my Ram is 2 generations old, so I can put in whatever 200mm x
142mm lights I want...currently running one Cibie and one Marchal plus a
set of Bosches)

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Sound like one of those morons I meat on a clear night running around
with there fog lights on.
If they were driving lights they would come on only with the high beam
lights. Fog lights should never be used with high beams that is why the
switch off when the high beams are turned on. In fact, if legal in your area
they work best with just the parking lights on, in driving conditions that
truly require fog lights. Not when cruising the local Burger Queen.
The factory lights that came on my '96 were a joke, the one's I mounted
in my homemade front bumper are a vast improvement, even though they are
just cheap Hellas lights.
The only good thing I will say about having factory fog lights is that I
had the factory dash switch and wiring to use to run the relay under the
hood.
Would be afraid to run decent fog lights through factory wiring harness
alone, but if you use the factory wiring to run the relay you will only draw
usually 5 amps max and then run power from the under hood electrical
distribution center.

Gary Carter

"KG" <kevin@thekgplumbingheating.com> wrote in message
news:EQltc.58320$cz5.23741268@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv. net...
> Last I heard these are "driving" lights, not fog lights.
> "dave t" <trout_trout@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:mWdtc.565892$Pk3.557644@pd7tw1no...
> > Are these units any better in performance than your typical aftermarket
> > foglights?
> > Thanks in advance
> >
> >
>
>

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I just had to order a new one from the local dealer... $117.00! I ONLY use
them when it's foggy. I agree, people trying to be cool by running them all
the time are morons.

Ed

"Gary Carter" <glcarter@netins.net> wrote in message
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> Sound like one of those morons I meat on a clear night running around
> with there fog lights on.
> If they were driving lights they would come on only with the high beam
> lights. Fog lights should never be used with high beams that is why the
> switch off when the high beams are turned on. In fact, if legal in your
area
> they work best with just the parking lights on, in driving conditions that
> truly require fog lights. Not when cruising the local Burger Queen.
> The factory lights that came on my '96 were a joke, the one's I
mounted
> in my homemade front bumper are a vast improvement, even though they are
> just cheap Hellas lights.
> The only good thing I will say about having factory fog lights is that
I
> had the factory dash switch and wiring to use to run the relay under the
> hood.
> Would be afraid to run decent fog lights through factory wiring
harness
> alone, but if you use the factory wiring to run the relay you will only
draw
> usually 5 amps max and then run power from the under hood electrical
> distribution center.
>
> Gary Carter
>
> "KG" <kevin@thekgplumbingheating.com> wrote in message
> news:EQltc.58320$cz5.23741268@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv. net...
> > Last I heard these are "driving" lights, not fog lights.
> > "dave t" <trout_trout@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:mWdtc.565892$Pk3.557644@pd7tw1no...
> > > Are these units any better in performance than your typical
aftermarket
> > > foglights?
> > > Thanks in advance
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

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"Edward L. Dowdy" <eldowdy@ctsihatespamcomp.com> wrote in message
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> I just had to order a new one from the local dealer... $117.00! I ONLY use
> them when it's foggy. I agree, people trying to be cool by running them
all
> the time are morons.

Or trying to be seen by the morons rolling around with no lights on.

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Or being blinded by morons like you.

"Paul Jensen" <pjensennospam@gnt.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Edward L. Dowdy" <eldowdy@ctsihatespamcomp.com> wrote in message
> news:zXMwc.11384$4S5.2958@attbi_s52...
> > I just had to order a new one from the local dealer... $117.00! I ONLY
use
> > them when it's foggy. I agree, people trying to be cool by running them
> all
> > the time are morons.
>
> Or trying to be seen by the morons rolling around with no lights on.
>
>

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Now that was uncalled for. Sorry.

"Edward L. Dowdy" <eldowdy@ctsihatespamcomp.com> wrote in message
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> Or being blinded by morons like you.
>
> "Paul Jensen" <pjensennospam@gnt.net> wrote in message
> news:ca0kjg$us$1@news.utelfla.com...
> >
> > "Edward L. Dowdy" <eldowdy@ctsihatespamcomp.com> wrote in message
> > news:zXMwc.11384$4S5.2958@attbi_s52...
> > > I just had to order a new one from the local dealer... $117.00! I ONLY
> use
> > > them when it's foggy. I agree, people trying to be cool by running
them
> > all
> > > the time are morons.
> >
> > Or trying to be seen by the morons rolling around with no lights on.
> >
> >
>
>

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hey-

you can purchase a new set of 01-04 mopar fog light kit complete in ebay for
$150.00.

Kevin G.


"Edward L. Dowdy" <eldowdy@ctsihatespamcomp.com> wrote in message
news:zXMwc.11384$4S5.2958@attbi_s52...
> I just had to order a new one from the local dealer... $117.00! I ONLY use
> them when it's foggy. I agree, people trying to be cool by running them
all
> the time are morons.
>
> Ed
>
> "Gary Carter" <glcarter@netins.net> wrote in message
> news:c97r8s$q02$1@news.netins.net...
> > Sound like one of those morons I meat on a clear night running
around
> > with there fog lights on.
> > If they were driving lights they would come on only with the high
beam
> > lights. Fog lights should never be used with high beams that is why the
> > switch off when the high beams are turned on. In fact, if legal in your
> area
> > they work best with just the parking lights on, in driving conditions
that
> > truly require fog lights. Not when cruising the local Burger Queen.
> > The factory lights that came on my '96 were a joke, the one's I
> mounted
> > in my homemade front bumper are a vast improvement, even though they are
> > just cheap Hellas lights.
> > The only good thing I will say about having factory fog lights is
that
> I
> > had the factory dash switch and wiring to use to run the relay under the
> > hood.
> > Would be afraid to run decent fog lights through factory wiring
> harness
> > alone, but if you use the factory wiring to run the relay you will only
> draw
> > usually 5 amps max and then run power from the under hood electrical
> > distribution center.
> >
> > Gary Carter
> >
> > "KG" <kevin@thekgplumbingheating.com> wrote in message
> > news:EQltc.58320$cz5.23741268@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv. net...
> > > Last I heard these are "driving" lights, not fog lights.
> > > "dave t" <trout_trout@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:mWdtc.565892$Pk3.557644@pd7tw1no...
> > > > Are these units any better in performance than your typical
> aftermarket
> > > > foglights?
> > > > Thanks in advance
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

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"Edward L. Dowdy" <eldowdy@ctsihatespamcomp.com> wrote in message
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> Or being blinded by morons like you.

Blinded? By fog lights? LOLOL!!!