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Old 06-15-2004   #11
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"Daniel J. Stern" <dastern@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 15 Jun 2004, Robert Han**** wrote:
>
> > Such a device would be an electric supercharger - these do exist, but I
> > believe they can only produce a few pounds of boost with a ridiculously
> > high-speed fan motor..

>
> ...powered by the alternator on the vehicle.


You sure?? I thought it used a long-***ed extension cord. <G>

Denny



 
Old 06-15-2004   #12
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Jack wrote:
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> Does anyone have an opinion on whether I can expect any improvement in power or gas mileage from
> an electric fan placed inside the flexible plastic duct that feeds air into the air filter
> housing? This is a carbed engine
>
> Jack


The only systems that can provide a significant amount
of boost use a large capacitor array to run a large
multi-horsepower blower motor, and even those are only
capable of providing a pound or two of boost for a few
seconds, then they require hours of recharging. This is
only useful when drag racing, and totally worthless for
everyday street use. Also, these systems are much more
expensive than going with regular NOS or turbo systems.
If the blower system you're looking at costs less than
a few thousand dollars then it's the ripoff one where
they sell you an electric weedeater motor and plastic
fan impeller, these not only don't provide any boost,
but they cause so much drag in the intake system that
they will significantly reduce horsepower.

JazzMan
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Old 06-15-2004   #13
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"Daniel J. Stern" <dastern@127.0.0.1> writes:

> On Tue, 15 Jun 2004, Robert Han**** wrote:
>
> > Such a device would be an electric supercharger - these do exist, but I
> > believe they can only produce a few pounds of boost with a ridiculously
> > high-speed fan motor..

>
> ...powered by the alternator on the vehicle. There is no such thing as a
> perpetual motion machine.


It is not the fan/supercharger that produces the extra power.

It doesn't matter if the power to the fan/SC comes from a belt driven
by the crank or from electricity produced by the alternator, which
incidently normally is driven by a belt off the crank ;-)

The power of course comes from the extra air/fuel charge you cram into
the engine.

Thomas
 
Old 06-15-2004   #14
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>> ...powered by the alternator on the vehicle.
>
>You sure?? I thought it used a long-***ed extension cord. <G>
>
>Denny
>


Just mount a generator in the bed of the truck. That way, you'd only need an
extension cord from the fan to the generator.
Thinking about it, just mount one of those big old industrial fans on the top
of the cab and use fan power to "push" the truck down the road like one of
those swamp boats in Florida do <G>
Bet you get some duck tape and a couple truck tarp straps and we'd be ready for
"liftoff"!!!!!!!!
Hell, you could even use the generator to power up those heated electric seats
Should be "toasty" in no time on 120 volts instead of 12 volts?????? <BG>



Politics, the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from
the rich.

 
Old 06-15-2004   #15
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"Thomas Tornblom" <thomas@Hax.SE.remove-to-reply> wrote in message
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> "Daniel J. Stern" <dastern@127.0.0.1> writes:
>
> > On Tue, 15 Jun 2004, Robert Han**** wrote:
> >
> > > Such a device would be an electric supercharger - these do exist, but

I
> > > believe they can only produce a few pounds of boost with a

ridiculously
> > > high-speed fan motor..

> >
> > ...powered by the alternator on the vehicle. There is no such thing as a
> > perpetual motion machine.

>
> It is not the fan/supercharger that produces the extra power.
>
> It doesn't matter if the power to the fan/SC comes from a belt driven
> by the crank or from electricity produced by the alternator, which
> incidently normally is driven by a belt off the crank ;-)
>
> The power of course comes from the extra air/fuel charge you cram into
> the engine.
>
> Thomas


And just how many cubic feet of air per minute does your proposed fan move?
I'll give you a little hint..... not nearly enough.
Bob


 
Old 06-15-2004   #16
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"Jack" <zzz@xxx.net> wrote in message
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> Does anyone have an opinion on whether I can expect any improvement

in power or gas mileage from
> an electric fan placed inside the flexible plastic duct that feeds

air into the air filter
> housing? This is a carbed engine
>
> Jack
>


A bit of Google searching found this link.

http://www.turbodyne.com/

Ken


 
Old 06-15-2004   #17
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"Bob" <bob@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> And just how many cubic feet of air per minute does your proposed fan

move?
> I'll give you a little hint..... not nearly enough.
> Bob
>

I recently read of an actual install of a leaf blower/supercharger. The guy
claimed it worked-- somewhat.


 
Old 06-15-2004   #18
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"Chas Hurst" <!hurst1@comcast.not> wrote in message
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>
> "Bob" <bob@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:10cub6qdt81173c@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> >
> > And just how many cubic feet of air per minute does your proposed fan

> move?
> > I'll give you a little hint..... not nearly enough.
> > Bob
> >

> I recently read of an actual install of a leaf blower/supercharger. The

guy
> claimed it worked-- somewhat.
>
>


If I read the same article, the leaf blower was powered by 110V from a wall
socket via an extension cord.


 
Old 06-15-2004   #19
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On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 14:28:22 -0400, "Chas Hurst" <!hurst1@comcast.not> wrote:

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||"Bob" <bob@nospam.com> wrote in message
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||>
||> And just how many cubic feet of air per minute does your proposed fan
||move?
||> I'll give you a little hint..... not nearly enough.
||> Bob
||>
||I recently read of an actual install of a leaf blower/supercharger. The guy
||claimed it worked-- somewhat.

But the driveway stayed clean!

Texas Parts Guy
 
Old 06-16-2004   #20
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"Bruce Chang" <bechang@swspambegonebell.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Chas Hurst" <!hurst1@comcast.not> wrote in message
> news:Nd2dnQiEbOhaolLdRVn-sw@comcast.com...
> >
> > "Bob" <bob@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > news:10cub6qdt81173c@corp.supernews.com...
> > >
> > >
> > > And just how many cubic feet of air per minute does your proposed fan

> > move?
> > > I'll give you a little hint..... not nearly enough.
> > > Bob
> > >

> > I recently read of an actual install of a leaf blower/supercharger. The

> guy
> > claimed it worked-- somewhat.
> >
> >

>
> If I read the same article, the leaf blower was powered by 110V from a

wall
> socket via an extension cord.


That's the one. I remember there was a hitch to it.
Wonder how a gas engine powered leaf blower would work?


 

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