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Old 06-12-2004   #1
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Default Trendmciro - for minus 5 cents

Folks,

Some of you may recall my opinions of virus scanners, and of
http://housecall.trendmicro.com

I continue to support most AV products, but as a result of real-world
experiences in the past year, Trendmicro's product line is the only one I
now recommend for either commercial or residential customers. Trendmicro's
product line remains among the very few that detects the more esoteric
ley-logging trojans frequently used by professional identity thieves. My
experience is that about one in four systems having current versions of the
two most 'popular' A-V scanners discover an undetected infection, usually a
trojan.

Trend's individual-PC product is PC-cillin Internet Security. Far beyond
just a virus scanner and integrated firewall, PC-cillin also includes
adware/spyware/malware detection and removal, e-mail client and Web-based
e-mail scanning, URL filtering, inbox spam filtering via an intelligent
scanner, and will scan outgoing communications for privacy content (such as
one's name, address, SSAN, credit card numbers, and telephone number, as
well as any other user-specified information). Additionally, Trendmicro's
auto-update function is not a simple weekly function, but is real-time,
sometimes up to several times daily, if and as warranted by new discoveries.

Trend offers a free, fully-functioned 30-day trial download of their
products at their website.

If you're near the end of your current subscription to a competitive
product, or just want the product after trying it, here's a deal. Reg
$49.95, for $24.95. No shipping required, as they send you a key via e-mail
to change your installed Trial Version to a full license.

http://www.discountedsoftwarestore.com/pcdetail.cfm

Trend also has a not-very-advertised $25 competitive upgrade rebate. Send in
your competitive product proof-of-purchase, manual front-page, or CD (must
be retail CD, not an OEM CD).

http://www.trendmicro.com/ftp/produc...lin-rebate.pdf

Net is that you can have what I consider to be one of the most effective
products on the market, a year's free updates, and keep your nickel, all for
a couple of postage stamps.

Allan

--
One asks, many answer, all learn. Plato - on the 'Forum'
--
True Civility is when everyone gives to every other one every right
that they claim for themselves.

NetSmith and ***ociates has no affilitation with any of the manufacturers,
suppliers, or resellers appearing in this post.


 
Old 06-13-2004   #2
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Default Re: Trendmciro - for minus 5 cents

On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 10:39:21 -0400, "Allan Smith"
<netsmith@(whereever).com> wrote:

>Trend's individual-PC product is PC-cillin Internet Security. Far beyond
>just a virus scanner and integrated firewall, PC-cillin also includes
>adware/spyware/malware detection and removal, e-mail client and Web-based
>e-mail scanning, URL filtering, inbox spam filtering via an intelligent
>scanner, and will scan outgoing communications for privacy content (such as
>one's name, address, SSAN, credit card numbers, and telephone number, as
>well as any other user-specified information). Additionally, Trendmicro's
>auto-update function is not a simple weekly function, but is real-time,
>sometimes up to several times daily, if and as warranted by new discoveries.


I don't like bundled software-
--
Littleguy
Don't worry about the horse being blind, just load the wagon.
 
Old 06-14-2004   #3
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Default Re: Trendmciro - for minus 5 cents

Lg,

Not bundled, integrated. One product.

You may disable any or all of the various functions with a c**** or two.

Allan'

--
One asks, many answer, all learn. Plato - on the 'Forum'
--
True Civility is when everyone gives to every other one every right
that they claim for themselves.

"Littleguy" <mlittleguy@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:nrhpc0he1pmlmrbv6drnth2d54g84g0c5t@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 10:39:21 -0400, "Allan Smith"
> <netsmith@(whereever).com> wrote:
>



 
Old 06-14-2004   #4
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Default Re: Trendmciro - for minus 5 cents

On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 10:39:21 -0400, "Allan Smith"
<netsmith@(whereever).com> wrote:

>Folks,
>
>Some of you may recall my opinions of virus scanners, and of
>http://housecall.trendmicro.com
>


Thanks for the tip Allan. Just so happens my subscription to CAI
EZTrust AV is set to expire in 2 weeks. I've been very satisfied with
it and my visits to Trend's free online scanner has never turned
anything up.

Just the same, I think I'll give Trend's package a spin as it appears
to offer quite a bit more for the same money.

Are there any issues setting it up on a network ? I'd hate to lose the
ability to share the printer and stuff like that.
 
Old 06-14-2004   #5
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Default Re: Trendmciro - for minus 5 cents

Rick,

Try it, you'll like its ease of use.

No network issues - Trend specializes in corporate network security products
using centralized deployment and administration, and that "network
awareness" extends to PC-cillin as well.

The firewall has four pre-defined configurations - Direct Connetion, Home
Network, Office Network, and Wireless Network. All are then very easily
editable via c****ing some pre-configured checkboxes for common network
functions/services. You may easily add any additional rules for any unique
requirements.

Note that Direct Connection offers the highest pre-configured protection,
and that Home Network ***umes no Internet connection (or a router-based
firewall) and is thus the lowest level of protection.

The Home Network setting does still scan network traffic for network-aware
viruses and trojans, however. Since I'm running XP SP2 RC1 and it has its
own quite good integrated firewall, I use the Home Network cdefinition to
let Windows perform firewall functions, while Trend simply scans traffic for
bad stuff.

You should be fine with Office Network or Wireless Network (the difference
is that Wireless blocks NetBIOS ports 137-139 and 445, and Domain Service
ports 88, 329, and 1026).

Note that if you use any https websites on port 443, you may have to check
the box enabling it.

Allan

--
One asks, many answer, all learn. Plato - on the 'Forum'
--
True Civility is when everyone gives to every other one every right
that they claim for themselves.

"Rick" <existentialkayaker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:n7sqc01elergul388j3u3cmfbkli6gtako@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 10:39:21 -0400, "Allan Smith"
> <netsmith@(whereever).com> wrote:
>
>>Folks,
>>
>>Some of you may recall my opinions of virus scanners, and of
>>http://housecall.trendmicro.com
>>

>
> Thanks for the tip Allan. Just so happens my subscription to CAI
> EZTrust AV is set to expire in 2 weeks. I've been very satisfied with
> it and my visits to Trend's free online scanner has never turned
> anything up.
>
> Just the same, I think I'll give Trend's package a spin as it appears
> to offer quite a bit more for the same money.
>
> Are there any issues setting it up on a network ? I'd hate to lose the
> ability to share the printer and stuff like that.



 
Old 06-17-2004   #6
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Default Re: Trendmciro - for minus 5 cents

Allan Smith wrote:
> Folks,
>
> Some of you may recall my opinions of virus scanners, and of
> http://housecall.trendmicro.com
>


[snip]

> Net is that you can have what I consider to be one of the most effective
> products on the market, a year's free updates, and keep your nickel, all for
> a couple of postage stamps.
>
> Allan
>


Allan,

I tried installing Internet Security and could not connect to the 'net.
Trend Micro's solution 18708 did not work (changing the firewall profile
to Wireless Network), and I don't think I have sufficient knowledge to
configure a profile manually. Got any suggestions? I'd like to use
PC-cillin Internet Security, as it combines functions more efficiently
that the programs I am now using.

--
Jim McDonald
 
Old 06-17-2004   #7
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Default Re: Trendmciro - for minus 5 cents

Jim,

First, try using the Home Network profile. Will it work? Though not as good
as other profiles, it will provide some level of protection while we analyze
the problem further.

Do you have, or have you had, any other software firewall installed? Some
older versions of some of them don't completely uninstall.

Next, what is your service? Dial-up, DSL, Cable, or Satellite? And from what
ISP?

Do you have a router attached to a broadband modem, or is your connection
directly to an ISP-provided modem/router? Is the connection Ethernet or USB?
What manufacturers and models of router, modem, or modem/router?

And finally, what version of Windows (if XP SP1, you will need to disable
Windows firewall).

Allan

--
One asks, many answer, all learn. Plato - on the 'Forum'
--
True Civility is when everyone gives to every other one every right
that they claim for themselves.

"Jim McDonald" <jamcdonald@nospam.excite.com> wrote in message
news:nj5Ac.118841$oQ6.70178@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> Allan Smith wrote:
>> Folks,
>>
>> Some of you may recall my opinions of virus scanners, and of
>> http://housecall.trendmicro.com
>>

>
> [snip]
>
>> Net is that you can have what I consider to be one of the most effective
>> products on the market, a year's free updates, and keep your nickel, all
>> for
>> a couple of postage stamps.
>>
>> Allan
>>

>
> Allan,
>
> I tried installing Internet Security and could not connect to the 'net.
> Trend Micro's solution 18708 did not work (changing the firewall profile
> to Wireless Network), and I don't think I have sufficient knowledge to
> configure a profile manually. Got any suggestions? I'd like to use
> PC-cillin Internet Security, as it combines functions more efficiently
> that the programs I am now using.
>
> --
> Jim McDonald



 
Old 06-17-2004   #8
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Default Re: Trendmciro - for minus 5 cents

Allan Smith wrote:
> Jim,
>
> First, try using the Home Network profile. Will it work? Though not as good
> as other profiles, it will provide some level of protection while we analyze
> the problem further.
>
> Do you have, or have you had, any other software firewall installed? Some
> older versions of some of them don't completely uninstall.
>
> Next, what is your service? Dial-up, DSL, Cable, or Satellite? And from what
> ISP?
>
> Do you have a router attached to a broadband modem, or is your connection
> directly to an ISP-provided modem/router? Is the connection Ethernet or USB?
> What manufacturers and models of router, modem, or modem/router?
>
> And finally, what version of Windows (if XP SP1, you will need to disable
> Windows firewall).
>
> Allan
>


Allan,

Thanks. I'll be getting back on this tomorrow evening, but it's getting
a bit late for me now. That's when I'll try Home Network. I have tried
Direct Connection and Wireless Network, neither worked. Disabling the
Internet Security firewall did not work, either - still no connection.

The older firewall was a Sygate product bundled in VCOM System Suite.
Following the removal, I ran jv16 Power Tools to clean up, then manually
deleted VCOM keys from the registry, then ran Power Tools again. Service
is cable, with Road Runner.

The cable modem is "all-in-one": cable modem, router, hardware firewall
and wireless access point (Motorola SBG 1000). The wireless network
adapter is USB (Netgear MA111).

Windows is XP SP1, the firewall was disabled.

--
Jim McDonald
 
Old 06-17-2004   #9
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Default Re: Trendmciro - for minus 5 cents

Jim,

If disabling Trend's firewall didn't help, it's more likely another issue,
and I suspect the remains of another firewall, or the Layered Service
Provider in Winsock2.

Check for latest drivers and firmware for Motorola and Netgear.

Next is LSPFix, which repairs and renumbers the Layered Service Provider
list (must be sequential) for Winsock2. If LSPFix doesn't find any bad LSP
entries to recommend repairing, and you dont see an entry that appears to be
Sygate-ish, c**** Finish, and it will renumber the list on exit. It's at
http://www.cexx.org/lspfix.htm

Might also try installing and then removing the latest Sygate product, it
may clean-up after the older one. Particularly in the CLSID sections,
entries may not contain data recognizable by jv16 as being Sygate.

Allan

--
One asks, many answer, all learn. Plato - on the 'Forum'
--
True Civility is when everyone gives to every other one every right
that they claim for themselves.

"Jim McDonald" <jamcdonald@nospam.excite.com> wrote in message
news:Ke7Ac.28316$Fd.20351@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> Allan Smith wrote:
>> Jim,
>>
>> First, try using the Home Network profile. Will it work? Though not as
>> good as other profiles, it will provide some level of protection while we
>> analyze the problem further.
>>
>> Do you have, or have you had, any other software firewall installed? Some
>> older versions of some of them don't completely uninstall.
>>
>> Next, what is your service? Dial-up, DSL, Cable, or Satellite? And from
>> what ISP?
>>
>> Do you have a router attached to a broadband modem, or is your connection
>> directly to an ISP-provided modem/router? Is the connection Ethernet or
>> USB? What manufacturers and models of router, modem, or modem/router?
>>
>> And finally, what version of Windows (if XP SP1, you will need to disable
>> Windows firewall).
>>
>> Allan
>>

>
> Allan,
>
> Thanks. I'll be getting back on this tomorrow evening, but it's getting a
> bit late for me now. That's when I'll try Home Network. I have tried
> Direct Connection and Wireless Network, neither worked. Disabling the
> Internet Security firewall did not work, either - still no connection.
>
> The older firewall was a Sygate product bundled in VCOM System Suite.
> Following the removal, I ran jv16 Power Tools to clean up, then manually
> deleted VCOM keys from the registry, then ran Power Tools again. Service
> is cable, with Road Runner.
>
> The cable modem is "all-in-one": cable modem, router, hardware firewall
> and wireless access point (Motorola SBG 1000). The wireless network
> adapter is USB (Netgear MA111).
>
> Windows is XP SP1, the firewall was disabled.
>
> --
> Jim McDonald



 
Old 06-17-2004   #10
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Default Re: Trendmciro - for minus 5 cents

Jim,

Also, go to Administrative Tooks, Services, and carefully review the list
for anything appearing Sygate. There was an older version that failed to
stop the service before uninstall, and thus the service was not removed. If
you find one, right-c****, Stop, and then right-c****, Properties, Startup
Type, Disabled.

Allan

--
One asks, many answer, all learn. Plato - on the 'Forum'
--
True Civility is when everyone gives to every other one every right
that they claim for themselves.

"Allan Smith" <netsmith@(whereever).com> wrote in message
news:yMdAc.45220$Kd5.4650@bignews4.bellsouth.net.. .
> Jim,
>
> If disabling Trend's firewall didn't help, it's more likely another issue,
> and I suspect the remains of another firewall, or the Layered Service
> Provider in Winsock2.
>
> Check for latest drivers and firmware for Motorola and Netgear.
>
> Next is LSPFix, which repairs and renumbers the Layered Service Provider
> list (must be sequential) for Winsock2. If LSPFix doesn't find any bad LSP
> entries to recommend repairing, and you dont see an entry that appears to
> be Sygate-ish, c**** Finish, and it will renumber the list on exit. It's
> at http://www.cexx.org/lspfix.htm
>
> Might also try installing and then removing the latest Sygate product, it
> may clean-up after the older one. Particularly in the CLSID sections,



 

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