Various Topics on Internet News

..m ..o..

Just Judy <gopanth@invalid-addy.com> wrote :

> "The Todal" <iudex@beeb.net> wrote:

> You've got to know that I loved your response.

Typical British, when we're on top form,
albeit The Todal is very well read.

We get these all the time. For example,
Question, "Sorry, did you mention my name?"
Answer, "only under my breath."

(which I think would be a nasty put-down, were it not hilarious)


--
http://www.tom-moore.com

.... ....

On 16 Jun 2004 10:14:11 GMT, Tom Moore
<email_for_tom_knickers@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>Just Judy <gopanth@invalid-addy.com> wrote :
>
>> "The Todal" <iudex@beeb.net> wrote:
>
>> You've got to know that I loved your response.
>
>Typical British, when we're on top form,
>albeit The Todal is very well read.
>
>We get these all the time. For example,
>Question, "Sorry, did you mention my name?"
>Answer, "only under my breath."
>
>(which I think would be a nasty put-down, were it not hilarious)

Thanks, I sure am enjoying your presence here. Years ago,
there were three posters: 24Fighting Chickens, Chief Broom, and
Photodude. Your humor reminds me of theirs, and they are greatly
missed.

However, I'm not sure about Todal's addy: Judex. Is that an
ex-Just Judy?

..o.. ....

"PeteM" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:fgbz5UAcT2zAFwjW@privacy.net...
> Hooda Gest <Be@One_With.Calm> posted
> >
> >"Robert" <robertmlaws@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:9bec984f.0406150017.50ef583d@posting.google. com...
> >> v>
> >> > If you're torturing someone, the last thing you want, is perfectly
clean
> >> > clothes with not even a speck of dirt on them, or around the
immediate
> >area.
> >> > If there was an award for the worst faked photo to appear in a
> >newspaper,
> >> > these should get top honors.
> >>
> >> Perhaps, if you have been torturing people, you might release a set of
> >> fake photos and later reveal them to be fakes in order to deflect
> >> people from trhe truth.
> >>
> >
> >Yes,
>
> Yes, quite possibly.
>
> >and Elvis may still be alive and working at a K-Mart in a small suburb
> >of Tulsa, OK.
>
> Probably not. But if you think either proposition has anything to do
> with the other, feel free to explain.
>

Both scenarios are of equal levels of probability. Is that a little
clearer?

Let me explain why I think so...

If I am engaging in the illegal activity of torturing prisoners, the very
last thing I wish to do is draw attention to me in any way, shape, or form.
I cannot control the reaction of the media, nor of politicians, who may
decide that these pictures are simply the "tip of an iceberg." So, I do not
draw attention with a phony story with phony pictures because it might make
someone dig deeper and uncover my real illegal behavior.

Of course, if you think that James Bond movies reflect real life, you may
disagree.


--

Hooda Gest
"The only thing I do immediately is procrastinate."

..t..

Hooda Gest <Be@One_With.Calm> posted
>
>"PeteM" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
>news:fgbz5UAcT2zAFwjW@privacy.net...
>> Hooda Gest <Be@One_With.Calm> posted
>> >
>> >"Robert" <robertmlaws@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >news:9bec984f.0406150017.50ef583d@posting.google. com...
>> >> v>
>> >> > If you're torturing someone, the last thing you want, is perfectly
>clean
>> >> > clothes with not even a speck of dirt on them, or around the
>immediate
>> >area.
>> >> > If there was an award for the worst faked photo to appear in a
>> >newspaper,
>> >> > these should get top honors.
>> >>
>> >> Perhaps, if you have been torturing people, you might release a set of
>> >> fake photos and later reveal them to be fakes in order to deflect
>> >> people from trhe truth.
>> >>
>> >
>> >Yes,
>>
>> Yes, quite possibly.
>>
>> >and Elvis may still be alive and working at a K-Mart in a small suburb
>> >of Tulsa, OK.
>>
>> Probably not. But if you think either proposition has anything to do
>> with the other, feel free to explain.
>>
>
>Both scenarios are of equal levels of probability. Is that a little
>clearer?

Much clearer thanks. However it is also clearly false.

>
>Let me explain why I think so...
>
>If I am engaging in the illegal activity of torturing prisoners, the very
>last thing I wish to do is draw attention to me in any way, shape, or form.
>I cannot control the reaction of the media, nor of politicians, who may
>decide that these pictures are simply the "tip of an iceberg." So, I do not
>draw attention with a phony story with phony pictures because it might make
>someone dig deeper and uncover my real illegal behavior.


There was no question of hiding the story. It was coming out anyway.
They knew that. In fact it was already half out. The Sun had covered the
allegations months earlier. All that remained was for the squaddies to
be charged, and the **** would hit the fan.



>
>Of course, if you think that James Bond movies reflect real life, you may
>disagree.

And even if I don't think so, I still disagree

The fact is that governments practice news management. They deliberately
use scheduling and diversionary tactics to maximise, minimise or
discredit press coverage that they find embarr***ing. Even those who had
not realised this already should have discovered it from the Jo Moore
affair.


--
PeteM

..o.. ....

"PeteM" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:aIByTSAqX+0AFwZ4@privacy.net...
> Hooda Gest <Be@One_With.Calm> posted
> >
> >"PeteM" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> >news:fgbz5UAcT2zAFwjW@privacy.net...
> >> Hooda Gest <Be@One_With.Calm> posted
> >> >
> >> >"Robert" <robertmlaws@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:9bec984f.0406150017.50ef583d@posting.google. com...
> >> >> v>
> >> >> > If you're torturing someone, the last thing you want, is perfectly
> >clean
> >> >> > clothes with not even a speck of dirt on them, or around the
> >immediate
> >> >area.
> >> >> > If there was an award for the worst faked photo to appear in a
> >> >newspaper,
> >> >> > these should get top honors.
> >> >>
> >> >> Perhaps, if you have been torturing people, you might release a set
of
> >> >> fake photos and later reveal them to be fakes in order to deflect
> >> >> people from trhe truth.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >Yes,
> >>
> >> Yes, quite possibly.
> >>
> >> >and Elvis may still be alive and working at a K-Mart in a small suburb
> >> >of Tulsa, OK.
> >>
> >> Probably not. But if you think either proposition has anything to do
> >> with the other, feel free to explain.
> >>
> >
> >Both scenarios are of equal levels of probability. Is that a little
> >clearer?
>
> Much clearer thanks. However it is also clearly false.

I see, I suppose you will explain that further down...

>
> >
> >Let me explain why I think so...
> >
> >If I am engaging in the illegal activity of torturing prisoners, the very
> >last thing I wish to do is draw attention to me in any way, shape, or
form.
> >I cannot control the reaction of the media, nor of politicians, who may
> >decide that these pictures are simply the "tip of an iceberg." So, I do
not
> >draw attention with a phony story with phony pictures because it might
make
> >someone dig deeper and uncover my real illegal behavior.
>
>
> There was no question of hiding the story. It was coming out anyway.
> They knew that. In fact it was already half out. The Sun had covered the
> allegations months earlier. All that remained was for the squaddies to
> be charged, and the **** would hit the fan.

So, there was already stories out and this would would have no effect then
one way or the other. So why release it? It certainly would not put the
media off the scent. In fact, it would likely have the opposite effect; it
would make them feel tricked and they would then work even harder to uncover
dirt.

>
>
>
> >
> >Of course, if you think that James Bond movies reflect real life, you may
> >disagree.
>
> And even if I don't think so, I still disagree
>
> The fact is that governments practice news management. They deliberately
> use scheduling and diversionary tactics to maximise, minimise or
> discredit press coverage that they find embarr***ing. Even those who had
> not realised this already should have discovered it from the Jo Moore
> affair.

The government is not the only folks to manipulate the media in this way.
So do the opposition, so do the media themselves.

I'm afraid we'll never agree on this but we've both made our arguments
clear.


--
Hooda Gest
"In a New York minute, everything can change..."