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On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 11:49:36 GMT, Floyd Drennon <fbdrennon@xobop.com>
wrote:

>On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 11:22:16 GMT, cg <cgrams007@{removethis}yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>
>:> Well you should. Without the agreement with the Arab states I don't
>:> believe the Gulf War would have been possible. Hussein's forces were
>:> far larger and more lethal than we faced 10 years later and the need
>:> to build a coalition was much more apparent.
>
>How do we know that his forces were larger and more lethal? From our
>intelligence reports? They've consistantly over estimated the strength of
>the opposition for decades. It certainly appears they did it again this
>time. Their air support was gone. They were surrendering by the thousands.
>We didn't need a coalition this time and we probably didn't need one then if
>the truth be known.

In military terms, I pretty much agree.

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cg

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On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 11:22:16 GMT, cg <cgrams007@{removethis}yahoo.com>
wrote:

>At some point far sooner than 10 years later the world would have been
>ready to take him out.

Like as soon as he started the m*** slaughter in the south? And
let's face it, 'the world' would never have been ready to take him
out. It took men of vision and courage like George Bush, Tony Blair,
and John Howard to do that.
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"I am alone: all drowns in the Pharisees' hypocrisy". - Boris Pasternak

My "From" address is munged - c**** "Reply To" to respond via email.

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"Tom Aldrich" <TomAlrich@usenetserver.com> wrote in message
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> Then there were no U.N. mandates then ?
>

Try to stay focused... none of these precluded SH from the murderous control
of those within Iraq's borders

Duine

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"joey_schabadoo" <akudlac@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > SH was given a free p*** to do anything he wanted after Desert Storm, as
> > long as he did it within his own country.
>
> Sanctions? No-fly zones? UN inspectors?
>

Try to stay focused... none of these precluded SH from the murderous control
of those within Iraq's borders

Duine

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"cg" <cgrams007@{removethis}yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> >> I continue to believe Schwarzkopf played a significant role in causing
> >> the failure of the rebellions that took place in Iraq after the Gulf
> >> War ended.
> >>
> >I don't know how the rebellions had a chance without direct intervention
of
> >the U.S., something not possible with the Desert Storm coalition
agreement.
>
> Perhaps. Perhaps not. We'll never know for sure.
>

I guess we can say that about most things in life.

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> >SH was given a free p*** to do anything he wanted after Desert Storm, as
> >long as he did it within his own country.
>
> Well, sort of. There were two "no fly" zones.
>

No fly zones did nothing to preclude SH from doing anything he wanted within
his own country.

Duine
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> cg

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"joey_schabadoo" <akudlac@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Duine" <duine@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > "joey_schabadoo" <akudlac@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:4ee9770c.0311040903.6cde0d4d@posting.google.c om...
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> > >
> > > Who did that?
> >
> > Did what?
> >
> > Duine
>
> "I am amused by those..."
>
> Who are those? Do they actually exist?

Joey, obviously you haven't been following the posts here for very long nor
paying much attention to the liberal news organizations.

Duine

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Years ago, I was asked to write a speech for President Nixon.

I didn't do that, but I wish President Bush would ask me to write a
speech for him now.

Here's what I'd write if he asked me to - which is unlikely:

My fellow Americans - (the word "fellow" includes women in political
speeches):

My fellow Americans. One of the reasons we invaded Iraq was because I
suggested Saddam Hussein had something to do with the terrorist attack
on the World Trade Center. No evidence that's so, I wish I hadn't said
it.

More at,

http://tinyurl.com/te1p



--

Ray
Mind over matter, if you don’t mind, it don’t matter.
(Confucius)

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On Sun, 2 Nov 2003 23:26:23 -0500, "Allan Smith"
<netsmith@(whereeveryoumightimagine).net> wrote:

>Ray,
>
>"I firmly believed we should not march into Baghdad ...To occupy Iraq would
>instantly shatter our coalition, turning the whole Arab world against us and
>make a broken tyrant into a latter-day Arab hero . ***igning young soldiers
>to a fruitless hunt for a securely entrenched dictator and condemning them
>to fight in what would be an unwinnable urban guerrilla war."
>
>I recall thinking at the time that those words of Bush 41 were both
>insightful, and wise.
>
>Allan

Agreed. The only way to go in is to take out anyone who resists at all.
At the time or later. I know people here don't know that many of the so
called civilians kill many troops. Later the country like Vietnam can
claim we killed civilians. To the people of the US they need to have
seen it first hand & up close & they would not say that ****. They have
been told war is hell. The only thing is they just don't know what hell
is all about from a soldiers point of view.
Now that we are there we need to swing a very big stick & anyone that
shows any resistance needs to see the inside of a barbed wire holding
area. 3ftX4ftX 24inches high while wearing nothing but what they were
born with. The Vietnam Mountain Yards knew how to do it right. Some
other did also but that's another story best not told.
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Ray
Mind over matter, if you don’t mind, it don’t matter.
(Confucius)

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On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 09:48:48 GMT, "Buzz" <buzzard@att.com> wrote:

>
>"Ray" <rvlc@wohooo.net> wrote in message
>news:h1o1d65pqi46ohjuc8gts3or6c9e9d4u3i@4ax.com.. .
>> Years ago, I was asked to write a speech for President Nixon.
>>
>> I didn't do that, but I wish President Bush would ask me to write a
>> speech for him now.
>>
>> Here's what I'd write if he asked me to - which is unlikely:
>>
>> One of the reasons we invaded Iraq was because I
>> suggested Saddam Hussein had something to do with the terrorist attack
>> on the World Trade Center. No evidence that's so, I wish I hadn't said
>> it.
>>
>> More at,
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/te1p
>
>More? When the poor ol' chap leads with a lie, I'm not too inclined to
>search out more of it.
>
>He should have stuck with his mindless *Did you ever notice...?* shtick.
>
>B
>
>
I took it as satire with some facts tossed in. How did you take it? <g>
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Ray
Mind over matter, if you don’t mind, it don’t matter.
(Confucius)