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11-03-2003

Ray,

"I firmly believed we should not march into Baghdad ...To occupy Iraq would
instantly shatter our coalition, turning the whole Arab world against us and
make a broken tyrant into a latter-day Arab hero . ***igning young soldiers
to a fruitless hunt for a securely entrenched dictator and condemning them
to fight in what would be an unwinnable urban guerrilla war."

I recall thinking at the time that those words of Bush 41 were both
insightful, and wise.

Allan

11-03-2003

"Ray" <rvlc@wohooo.net> wrote in message
news:h1o1d65pqi46ohjuc8gts3or6c9e9d4u3i@4ax.com...
> Years ago, I was asked to write a speech for President Nixon.
>
> I didn't do that, but I wish President Bush would ask me to write a
> speech for him now.
>
> Here's what I'd write if he asked me to - which is unlikely:
>
> One of the reasons we invaded Iraq was because I
> suggested Saddam Hussein had something to do with the terrorist attack
> on the World Trade Center. No evidence that's so, I wish I hadn't said
> it.
>
> More at,
>
> http://tinyurl.com/te1p

More? When the poor ol' chap leads with a lie, I'm not too inclined to
search out more of it.

He should have stuck with his mindless *Did you ever notice...?* shtick.

B

11-03-2003

On Sun, 2 Nov 2003 23:26:23 -0500, "Allan Smith"
<netsmith@(whereeveryoumightimagine).net> wrote:

>"I firmly believed we should not march into Baghdad ...To occupy Iraq would
>instantly shatter our coalition, turning the whole Arab world against us and
>make a broken tyrant into a latter-day Arab hero . ***igning young soldiers
>to a fruitless hunt for a securely entrenched dictator and condemning them
>to fight in what would be an unwinnable urban guerrilla war."
>
>I recall thinking at the time that those words of Bush 41 were both
>insightful, and wise.

In the light of history these words may, or may not, have been wise.
In light of the agreement he had reached with the Arab nations it is
difficult for me to see that he had any choice in the matter.

--
cg

11-03-2003

cg,

> In the light of history these words may, or may not, have been wise.
> In light of the agreement he had reached with the Arab nations it is
> difficult for me to see that he had any choice in the matter.

Imo, history is proving them wise, as we type.

Allan

11-03-2003

"cg" <cgrams007@{removethis}yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:bjfcqvs5h7cs628qobp1bar1fboum1o420@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 2 Nov 2003 23:26:23 -0500, "Allan Smith"
> <netsmith@(whereeveryoumightimagine).net> wrote:
>
> >"I firmly believed we should not march into Baghdad ...To occupy Iraq
would
> >instantly shatter our coalition, turning the whole Arab world against us
and
> >make a broken tyrant into a latter-day Arab hero . ***igning young
soldiers
> >to a fruitless hunt for a securely entrenched dictator and condemning
them
> >to fight in what would be an unwinnable urban guerrilla war."
> >
> >I recall thinking at the time that those words of Bush 41 were both
> >insightful, and wise.
>
> In the light of history these words may, or may not, have been wise.
> In light of the agreement he had reached with the Arab nations it is
> difficult for me to see that he had any choice in the matter.
>
> --
> cg

I am amused by those who one hand castigate Bush senior for not invading
Iraq (thereby allowing SH to remain in power) and now tout him as some sort
of wise seer for not invading Iraq. Right, wrong, or indifferent, the "game
rules" for the Desert Storm coalition included not invading Iraq and Bush
senior had to play by those rules regardless of personal desires.

Duine

11-03-2003

"Buzz" <buzzard@att.com> wrote in message news:<4wppb.71010$9E1.324721@attbi_s52>...
> "Ray" <rvlc@wohooo.net> wrote in message
> news:h1o1d65pqi46ohjuc8gts3or6c9e9d4u3i@4ax.com...
> > Years ago, I was asked to write a speech for President Nixon.
> >
> > I didn't do that, but I wish President Bush would ask me to write a
> > speech for him now.
> >
> > Here's what I'd write if he asked me to - which is unlikely:
> >
> > One of the reasons we invaded Iraq was because I
> > suggested Saddam Hussein had something to do with the terrorist attack
> > on the World Trade Center. No evidence that's so, I wish I hadn't said
> > it.
> >
> > More at,
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/te1p
>
> More? When the poor ol' chap leads with a lie, I'm not too inclined to
> search out more of it.
>
> He should have stuck with his mindless *Did you ever notice...?* shtick.
>
> B

You missed some good stuff then, the whole nuclear lie and the Mission
Accomplished fiasco and the deficit spending, it was pretty good.

11-04-2003

On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 15:31:56 GMT, "Duine" <duine@hotmail.com> wrote:

>I am amused by those who one hand castigate Bush senior for not invading
>Iraq (thereby allowing SH to remain in power) and now tout him as some sort
>of wise seer for not invading Iraq. Right, wrong, or indifferent, the "game
>rules" for the Desert Storm coalition included not invading Iraq and Bush
>senior had to play by those rules regardless of personal desires.

I continue to believe Schwarzkopf played a significant role in causing
the failure of the rebellions that took place in Iraq after the Gulf
War ended.

I understand that no one reason fully explains the failures but I also
understand that Hussein's ability to use his helicopters against those
in revolt was a significant reason for their defeat.

--
cg

11-04-2003

On Sun, 2 Nov 2003 23:26:23 -0500, "Allan Smith"
<netsmith@(whereeveryoumightimagine).net> wrote:

>I recall thinking at the time that those words of Bush 41 were both
>insightful, and wise.

I recall thinking he was a coward for not doing the right thing
in spite of opposition. His son is showing true courage.
--
"I am alone: all drowns in the Pharisees' hypocrisy". - Boris Pasternak

My "From" address is munged - c**** "Reply To" to respond via email.

11-04-2003

On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 09:48:48 GMT, "Buzz" <buzzard@att.com> wrote:

>He should have stuck with his mindless *Did you ever notice...?* shtick.

At least he's consistent. His shtick is still mindless.
--
"I am alone: all drowns in the Pharisees' hypocrisy". - Boris Pasternak

My "From" address is munged - c**** "Reply To" to respond via email.

11-04-2003

On Mon, 3 Nov 2003 08:26:02 -0500, "Allan Smith"
<netsmith@(whereeveryoumightimagine).net> wrote:

>...history is proving them wise...

'History' doesn't speak of current affairs.

--
"I am alone: all drowns in the Pharisees' hypocrisy". - Boris Pasternak

My "From" address is munged - c**** "Reply To" to respond via email.

11-03-2003	#1
..l.. ..i..	Re: (CBS) A weekly commentary by CBS News Correspondent Andy Rooney. Ray, "I firmly believed we should not march into Baghdad ...To occupy Iraq would instantly shatter our coalition, turning the whole Arab world against us and make a broken tyrant into a latter-day Arab hero . ***igning young soldiers to a fruitless hunt for a securely entrenched dictator and condemning them to fight in what would be an unwinnable urban guerrilla war." I recall thinking at the time that those words of Bush 41 were both insightful, and wise. Allan

11-03-2003	#2
....	Re: (CBS) A weekly commentary by CBS News Correspondent Andy Rooney. "Ray" <rvlc@wohooo.net> wrote in message news:h1o1d65pqi46ohjuc8gts3or6c9e9d4u3i@4ax.com... > Years ago, I was asked to write a speech for President Nixon. > > I didn't do that, but I wish President Bush would ask me to write a > speech for him now. > > Here's what I'd write if he asked me to - which is unlikely: > > One of the reasons we invaded Iraq was because I > suggested Saddam Hussein had something to do with the terrorist attack > on the World Trade Center. No evidence that's so, I wish I hadn't said > it. > > More at, > > http://tinyurl.com/te1p More? When the poor ol' chap leads with a lie, I'm not too inclined to search out more of it. He should have stuck with his mindless Did you ever notice...? shtick. B

11-03-2003	#4
..l.. ..i..	Re: (CBS) A weekly commentary by CBS News Correspondent Andy Rooney. cg, > In the light of history these words may, or may not, have been wise. > In light of the agreement he had reached with the Arab nations it is > difficult for me to see that he had any choice in the matter. Imo, history is proving them wise, as we type. Allan

11-03-2003	#5
..i..	Re: (CBS) A weekly commentary by CBS News Correspondent Andy Rooney. "cg" <cgrams007@{removethis}yahoo.com> wrote in message news:bjfcqvs5h7cs628qobp1bar1fboum1o420@4ax.com... > On Sun, 2 Nov 2003 23:26:23 -0500, "Allan Smith" > <netsmith@(whereeveryoumightimagine).net> wrote: > > >"I firmly believed we should not march into Baghdad ...To occupy Iraq would > >instantly shatter our coalition, turning the whole Arab world against us and > >make a broken tyrant into a latter-day Arab hero . ***igning young soldiers > >to a fruitless hunt for a securely entrenched dictator and condemning them > >to fight in what would be an unwinnable urban guerrilla war." > > > >I recall thinking at the time that those words of Bush 41 were both > >insightful, and wise. > > In the light of history these words may, or may not, have been wise. > In light of the agreement he had reached with the Arab nations it is > difficult for me to see that he had any choice in the matter. > > -- > cg I am amused by those who one hand castigate Bush senior for not invading Iraq (thereby allowing SH to remain in power) and now tout him as some sort of wise seer for not invading Iraq. Right, wrong, or indifferent, the "game rules" for the Desert Storm coalition included not invading Iraq and Bush senior had to play by those rules regardless of personal desires. Duine

11-03-2003	#6
..ey_schabad..	Re: (CBS) A weekly commentary by CBS News Correspondent Andy Rooney. "Buzz" <buzzard@att.com> wrote in message news:<4wppb.71010$9E1.324721@attbi_s52>... > "Ray" <rvlc@wohooo.net> wrote in message > news:h1o1d65pqi46ohjuc8gts3or6c9e9d4u3i@4ax.com... > > Years ago, I was asked to write a speech for President Nixon. > > > > I didn't do that, but I wish President Bush would ask me to write a > > speech for him now. > > > > Here's what I'd write if he asked me to - which is unlikely: > > > > One of the reasons we invaded Iraq was because I > > suggested Saddam Hussein had something to do with the terrorist attack > > on the World Trade Center. No evidence that's so, I wish I hadn't said > > it. > > > > More at, > > > > http://tinyurl.com/te1p > > More? When the poor ol' chap leads with a lie, I'm not too inclined to > search out more of it. > > He should have stuck with his mindless Did you ever notice...? shtick. > > B You missed some good stuff then, the whole nuclear lie and the Mission Accomplished fiasco and the deficit spending, it was pretty good.

11-04-2003	#7
..	Re: (CBS) A weekly commentary by CBS News Correspondent Andy Rooney. On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 15:31:56 GMT, "Duine" <duine@hotmail.com> wrote: >I am amused by those who one hand castigate Bush senior for not invading >Iraq (thereby allowing SH to remain in power) and now tout him as some sort >of wise seer for not invading Iraq. Right, wrong, or indifferent, the "game >rules" for the Desert Storm coalition included not invading Iraq and Bush >senior had to play by those rules regardless of personal desires. I continue to believe Schwarzkopf played a significant role in causing the failure of the rebellions that took place in Iraq after the Gulf War ended. I understand that no one reason fully explains the failures but I also understand that Hussein's ability to use his helicopters against those in revolt was a significant reason for their defeat. -- cg

11-04-2003	#8
.. ..perczyns..	Re: (CBS) A weekly commentary by CBS News Correspondent Andy Rooney. On Sun, 2 Nov 2003 23:26:23 -0500, "Allan Smith" <netsmith@(whereeveryoumightimagine).net> wrote: >I recall thinking at the time that those words of Bush 41 were both >insightful, and wise. I recall thinking he was a coward for not doing the right thing in spite of opposition. His son is showing true courage. -- "I am alone: all drowns in the Pharisees' hypocrisy". - Boris Pasternak My "From" address is munged - c**** "Reply To" to respond via email.

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