Leonard Cohen

There are some things that I have ready to say about you to Poetman
which I am keeping back until you are gone on your vacation. I think
they are for your benefit and would work out better if you kept your
mouth shut for a while. So please let me know when you get to the point
when you will no longer checking the newsgroup and leaving on your
vacation.

Have a good time in Spain and keep away from those Internet Cafes'

regards

Jack

Smart move Jackie. Better wait till he's gone. He'll make
mincemeat out of you otherwise. You are such a pathetic
dumbhostinghostinghostinghosting. Do you even have a job to go on vacation from? And what happened
to that book someone was going to pay you to write or did that go the way of
your
brain tumor?
Mike
"Jack Lazariuk" < in message
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Michael S. Connaghan asked Jack: that go the way of your brain tumor?

I thought he said that the remnant piece of tooth slowly burrowing its way
towards an optic nerve gave symptoms that doctors can confuse with that of a
tumour. After reading on various medical websites about this type of
occurance such an explanation does seem more than plausible. Thank goodness
that it was not so serious as at first feared. Yes, I too remember Jack
mentioning that he might pen someone's biography - although I don't believe
he said it was definite - he was merely sharing his news. Jack is a nice
person, Michael - really nice. It sometimes seems as though I am the only
one who thinks so. He doesn't have many good friends here, few people
willing to support him - maybe because he's an easy target, I don't know.
Maybe because people don't like to show disloyalty to Michael Wolkind, so
they stay silent.

In < s. connaghan wrote: Well Mike I kind of thought that if I started giving Michael some of my
attention that you would get jealous and try to get some for yourself.

I do have some time lately and I am feeling generous but the problem
with you is that the only attention which you seem to invite is an
exchange of insults. For a number of reasons I am inclined to not bother
exchanging insults with you:

One is that I don't think it is a very suitable activity for a Leonard
Cohen newsgroup

two is that over the years a number of people in the group have
contacted me and told me how much they admire the restraint I have
showed by not responding to your petty insults and I would hate to lose
their admiration

three is that I don't really think that the majority of people here
enjoy seeing people insulting each other

four is that I am about to do some writing about Michael and I think
that people here fear that there is a conflict between Michael and I
which will lead to some nastiness, but I also think that they might
reserve their judgement for a little while to see where I am going to go
with it. So in other areas I want to make sure that I am on my best
behavior.

But having said all that I could be convinced to change my mind and get
involved in exchanging some insults with you. All you would need to do
for that to happen is to get a few of the regular posters on the
newsgroup to say that they would like it if I got involved in dealing
with you on the level that you present yourself and then Mike you will
get some of my attention, but until then I think that I will probably
ignor you.

Jack

In <MOTec.24905$ wrote: Poetman I appreciate the kind words that you write about me and the
willingness to protect me from unfair attacks that you demonstrate but I
wish that you would not try to encourage others to do the same. I will
tell you why.

A short while ago when the opportunity presented itself I gave out some
presents. It was a very small gesture but it flowed from an overwhelming
appreciation for what I have received in response to participating in
this group. During the years that I have been posting here I had phostinghostinghostinged
through some very hard times and have received kindnesses from people in
this group what I feel to be far in excess of what I deserve. Following
are some of the things that people from the Leonard Cohen Newsgroup have
done for me:

Encouraged me
Laughed at my jokes
Danced with my mother
Joked with my sister
Listened to my neices
Met with my friends
I have received in excess of fifty presents over the course of the years,
presents that I will always cherish
visted me in Saskatoon
taken my son and I with them on vacation
kissed my lips
mhostinghostinghostingaged my back...
given me money - considerable amounts
talked dirty to me on the phone
prayed for me
lit candles for me
Played with my son
Drawn pictures for me
Written me poems
Written me letters
Given me phone calls
Demonstrated in a thousand ways that they cared

I've had quite my fair share and I doubt that I will ever be able to
give back as much as I have received. You have a wonderful writing
ability at showing you care in a public way in an environment that can
be less than friendly but don't expect that everyone else can be like
you.

If someone comes along like Mike and insults me in the petty way he does
it has very little effect on me. If you respond to him on my behalf I
take it as a kindness that I appreciate but part of the appreciation is
that I am not concerned that he will turn on you as a result because I
am confident that your skill is so dramatically in excess of his that
you would be able to sweep aside any attack of his like a piece of fluff.

Others may not be as hardened as you or I and would feel pain at being
personally attacked and I don't think that either of us would want that
to happen. There are a lot of people who I would certainly not want to
get involved in any petty exchange of insults. I'll give you an example.
One person that I think we both have a high regard for and are fond of
is Elsie. If someone like Mike were to come along and insult you
unfairly I am sure that it would be something that Elsie would not like
but would you appreciate it if she spoke out on your behalf and had that
lead to her becoming subject herself to a pile of hostinghostinghostinghosting? I think that you
would prefer to keep her out of it. I don't like being insulted in any
form but if insults are going to happen I much prefer that they be
directed at me than towards some others. There are some things that I
am trying to do and if that leads to my becoming an easy target it is
part of the territory that I am willing to live with.

Jack

Do you think that Michael has left yet?

"All journeys have secret destinations of which the traveler is unaware.
"
Martin Buber

Typical Lazariuk answer; verbosity without substance.
You take a long time to tell me you won't be answering
my questions. That's because you can't answer them without admitting to
being a liar.
No job. No prospects. No sense of shame. That's Jack.
Mike
"Jack Lazariuk" < in message
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I think you're wrong. Did you see the list he sent you
concerning all the things people have done for him. He's
a theif. He continually cries 'poor' and takes every opportunity to weep
publicly for himself in order to elicit
sympathy from the unwary. When he manages to hook
a sap he soaks them down for whatever he can get out of them. Jack is a
user. He prefers being a con artist to working for a living.
Mike
"poetman" < in message
news:MOTec.24905$ a goodness believe