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Old 08-26-2004   #21
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On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 07:07:43 -0700, "R Baumann" <rynt@9yahoo.com>
wrote:

>
>"Xah Lee" <xah@xahlee.org> wrote in message
>news:7fe97cc4.0408251356.34f2102a@posting.google. com...
>> Larry Wall and Cults
>> (Lazyness, Impatience and Hubris)
>> 200012
>>

><BIG SNIP>
>
>In this context --- This is the STUPIDEST thing I've ever heard. What a
>maroon! What a Trollup!
>


His plane curve work is not far from some of my own obsessions. I knew
of and admired his site.

Didn't know he had other interests as well

Maybe an extreme me.

All obsessions in moderation, is my motto.


Art

>RB
>


 
Old 08-26-2004   #22
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"Markus Wankus" <markus_wankusGETRIDOFALLCAPS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Q3lXc.22457$_H5.654259@news20.bellglobal.com. ..
> >>I think you're getting confused with the Blue Öyster Cult.
> >>Don't Fear the Reaper - great song.

> >
> >

>
> It was a great song, but it needed more cowbell...
>
> Mark.


Gotta have more cowbell. . . .

Johnny


 
Old 08-26-2004   #23
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On 2004-08-26, Sara <genericax@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Hey this ain't no CULT! Our creedo is simply:
>
> "Larry said it, I believe it, THAT settles it!"
>
> If you don't believe it just look at the reaction if any questions any
> element of Perl design!


Over here in c.l.python, it's more like

"Guido said it, that settles it, but we're going to discuss
it endlessly and and vote on it using six or seven
different voting algorithms anyway. Then we'll argue about
the voting algorithms."

--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! I'm ZIPPY!! Are we
at having FUN yet??
visi.com
 
Old 08-26-2004   #24
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>>>>> "Grant" == Grant Edwards <grante@visi.com> writes:


Grant> "Guido said it, that settles it, but we're going to discuss
Grant> it endlessly and and vote on it using six or seven
Grant> different voting algorithms anyway. Then we'll argue about
Grant> the voting algorithms."

Are the voting algorithms indented consistently? That's a necessity,
correct? Surely, they have significant whitespace.

/me ducks back under his rock

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Old 08-26-2004   #25
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On 25 Aug 2004 23:57:24 -0700, spam_depository2004@yahoo.com (Johnny)
wrote:

>xah@xahlee.org (Xah Lee) wrote in message news:<7fe97cc4.0408251356.34f2102a@posting.google. com>...
>
>> How can we prevent heinous cults then? Stop bending truths. Education
>> and rationalism. I'm starting my own cult to exterminate morons on
>> this earth. Two things are on the top of my agenda: Unixism and Perl.

>
>I bet Larry Wall's life insurance premiums just skyrocketed. BTW, what
>does this have to do with Lisp? We are more of a therapy and support
>group than a cult.


That's fortunate, since Xah Lee obviously needs those services.

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Old 08-26-2004   #26
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On 25 Aug 2004 14:56:06 -0700, xah@xahlee.org (Xah Lee) wrote, in part:

>Did you know that throughout history there's this thing called cult?


We have heard of it.

>Don't think that i'm citing from
>some arcane books buried in libraries. These are real, and not
>difficult to find in real life.


Unlike the cult of Chthulhu, for example.

>Big brother organizations, such as the FBI, is keen on these and
>very interested in benefiting from social psychology themselves. They
>are recorded in books too. Ever wonder why the library houses so many
>cold volumes of paper? This is one contributing reason. You might be
>interested to verify that sometimes.


Ah, yes. If it weren't for the interest of the FBI in cults, our
libraries would be much smaller, or they would emphasize warm audio and
video recordings more.

>Surely you have heard of Adolf Hitler
>and his atrocities of genocide?


Yes, you are rather safe in ***uming that.

>I must alert you, that a single person
>couldn't commit such a crime. You see, even if you are superman, you
>can only kill few at a time.


Yes, despite claims at the Nuremberg trials, Hitler didn't run the
concentration camps as a one-man operation.

>You see, it is the people, people like
>you and me, who commit the killings willingly, by Hitler's
>teaching. You may say: "no, i won't ever do such stupid thing", well
>because you are very ignorant about social psychology. It is precisely
>innocent people like you and (not) me, who were lead by the radical
>leaders of supreme brain-washing abilities. The innocent mob were
>fervent in their leader's vision and beliefs to commit anything.


They did, though, have to select from the German people those who would
operate the concentration camps.

As for the m***es, it was enough that they were afraid to try to do
anything to stop it.

>How can we prevent heinous cults then? Stop bending truths. Education
>and rationalism. I'm starting my own cult to exterminate morons on
>this earth. Two things are on the top of my agenda: Unixism and Perl.


You are not providing any validation for your claim that these things
are so dangerous that the use of deadly force is justified or necessary.

John Savard
http://home.ecn.ab.ca/~jsavard/index.html
 
Old 08-26-2004   #27
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On 2004-08-26, Randal L. Schwartz <merlyn@stonehenge.com> wrote:
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>>>>>> "Grant" == Grant Edwards <grante@visi.com> writes:

>
>Grant> "Guido said it, that settles it, but we're going to discuss
>Grant> it endlessly and and vote on it using six or seven
>Grant> different voting algorithms anyway. Then we'll argue about
>Grant> the voting algorithms."
>
> Are the voting algorithms indented consistently? That's a
> necessity, correct?


Of course, but are they consistently indented using tabs or
spaces?

> Surely, they have significant whitespace.


--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! Gee, I feel kind of
at LIGHT in the head now,
visi.com knowing I can't make my
satellite dish PAYMENTS!
 
Old 08-26-2004   #28
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On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, Tor Iver Wilhelmsen wrote:

> Rich Teer <rich.teer@rite-group.com> writes:
>
> > I think you're getting confused with the Blue Öyster Cult.

>
> Actually, there is also The Cult, a British band that lasted from
> 1984-1995.


I belive the Cult (She Sells Sanctuary, etc.) is another manfifestation
of the Blue Öyster Cult.

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Old 08-26-2004   #29
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John Savard wrote:
> They did, though, have to select from the German people those who
> would operate the concentration camps.

Which where the afraid ones or the ones that actually believed in him
for one reason or another. Yes, some people didn't need brain-washing
to believe him. I know it's a radical idea that some people are racist,
but it true!

> As for the m***es, it was enough that they were afraid to try to do
> anything to stop it.

Perhaps you should look into the history books a little closer. There
was this thing call the resistance in *all* the countries you know, not
to mention the anti-nazi publications in the papers during his rise to
power. And without those resistance fighters, the allies might have
failed in there endeavour.


Why did you even give an actual reply to this guy anyway?
 
Old 08-26-2004   #30
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In alt.folklore.computers R Baumann <rynt@9yahoo.com> wrote:
> In this context --- This is the STUPIDEST thing I've ever heard. What a
> maroon! What a Trollup!
>


He doesn't quite win, there's one regular afc troll who narrowly edges
him out... but I won't mention his name because that tends to invoke
him.

pete
--
pete@fenelon.com "there's no room for enigmas in built-up areas"
 

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