Various Topics on Medicine - Dentistry

..M... ..wa.. ..S

I donot think that amalgam as filling material will be toxic
because that mercuray in bonded form not free form

..n

>Subject: dental amalgam
>From: dentist_dent@yahoo.com (R.M.AL Kowafi BDS)
>Date: 6/9/2004 3:43 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <86735676.0406091543.707b766c@posting.google.com >
>
>I donot think that amalgam as filling material will be toxic
>because that mercuray in bonded form not free form

More excuses. Regardless of the form, it leaks and lets off vapors.

Although the mercury is bonded to the other metals when used to fill teeth, it
can be freed in the form of vapour during chewing and tooth-brushing.

Jan

.... ..ewt..

Here we go again.

This has been done to death in here.


"Jan" <jdrew63929@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040609214323.04187.00000511@mb-m25.aol.com...
> >Subject: dental amalgam
> >From: dentist_dent@yahoo.com (R.M.AL Kowafi BDS)
> >Date: 6/9/2004 3:43 PM Pacific Standard Time
> >Message-id: <86735676.0406091543.707b766c@posting.google.com >
> >
> >I donot think that amalgam as filling material will be toxic
> >because that mercuray in bonded form not free form
>
> More excuses. Regardless of the form, it leaks and lets off vapors.
>
> Although the mercury is bonded to the other metals when used to fill
teeth, it
> can be freed in the form of vapour during chewing and tooth-brushing.
>
> Jan

..

R.M.AL Kowafi BDS wrote:
> I donot think that amalgam as filling material will be toxic
> because that mercuray in bonded form not free form

Tell that to her: http://www.toxicteeth.org/forms/mainLineToday.pdf

..

R.M.AL Kowafi BDS wrote:
> I donot think that amalgam as filling material will be toxic
> because that mercuray in bonded form not free form

"Anyone who does not believe mercury is emitted from amalgams should
consider doing the following.

Have your local dentist make 10 amalgams using the same material he/she
places in your mouth. Take these 10 amalgams to your nearest research
university's department of chemistry or toxicology department and have them
determine how much mercury is being emitted. For example, have them
calculate how long it would take a single spill of hardened amalgam to make
a gallon of water too toxic to p*** EPA standards as drinking water.

You will then have an answer from an unbiased, solid group of scientists who
are trained to do such determinations. Also, remember the level of mercury
they measure would not include the increase that would occur with amalgams
in the mouth where chewing, grinding your teeth, drinking hot liquids and
galvanism greatly increase the release of mercury. Since this approach can
be easily done by anyone don't you think the ADA, FDA and other amalgam
supporters would have this published by now if the level of mercury released
was below the danger level?

Here is their attempt.

According to an ADA spokesman he has "estimated" that only 0.08 micrograms
of mercury per amalgam per day is taken into the human body. Applying simple
math to this "estimate" of 0.08 micrograms/ day one would divide this amount
by 8,640 (24 hours/day X 60 minutes/hour X 6 ten second intervals/minute) to
determine the amount of mercury in micrograms available for a ten second
mercury vapor analysis.

Consider that somewhere between one-half to five-sixths of the mercury
released would be into the tooth (that area of the amalgam that exists below
the visibly exposed amalgam surface) and not into the oral air. In addition,
some mercury in the oral air would be rapidly absorbed into the saliva and
oral mucosa (mercury loves hydrophobic cell membranes) and also not be
measured by the mercury analyzer.

Further, as the mercury analyzer pulls mercury containing oral air into the
analysis chamber, mercury free ambient air rushes into the oral cavity
decreasing the mercury concentration. Taking all of this into account you
can calculate that most mercury analyzers could not detect this "estimated"
0.08 micrograms/day level of mercury even if you had several amalgams.

However, the fact is that it is quite easy to detect mercury emitting from
one amalgam using these analyzers. Therefore, the "estimate" by this ADA
spokesman is way to low.

Also, if you gently rub the amalgam with a tooth-brush the amount of mercury
emitted goes up dramatically. This is a test anyone can do and demonstrate
to any group. The ADA spokesmen state that the mercury vapor analyzer is not
accurate at determining oral mercury levels and they are quite correct.

However, using this instrument would greatly underestimate the amount of
mercury exiting the amalgam. The very fact that the mercury analyzer detects
high levels of oral mercury strongly indicates the emitted amount of mercury
is too high to be acceptable.

Mercury release from dental amalgams is also the reason OSHA has used this
analyzer to make the dentists place unused amalgam in a sealed container
under liquid glycerin. This is done so that the mercury vapors from the
amalgams will not contaminate the dental office making it an unsafe place to
work.

This is also the reason the EPA insists that removed amalgam filling and
extracted teeth containing amalgam material be picked up and disposed of as
toxic waste. Apparently, the only safe place for amalgams is in the human
mouth if you believe what the ADA believes."

http://www.mercola.com/fcgi/pf/2001/...gam_safety.htm

..n

>Subject: Re: dental amalgam
>From: "John Chewter" john.chewter@btinternet.com
>Date: 6/9/2004 7:13 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <ca8jl8$fmt$1@sparta.btinternet.com>
>
>Here we go again.
>
>This has been done to death in here.

And will continue as long as the denial remains. There are still people out
there STIL suffering and STILL searching for thier health problem and it is way
past time to consider the teeth.

Jan



>"Jan" <jdrew63929@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:20040609214323.04187.00000511@mb-m25.aol.com...
>> >Subject: dental amalgam
>> >From: dentist_dent@yahoo.com (R.M.AL Kowafi BDS)
>> >Date: 6/9/2004 3:43 PM Pacific Standard Time
>> >Message-id: <86735676.0406091543.707b766c@posting.google.com >
>> >
>> >I donot think that amalgam as filling material will be toxic
>> >because that mercuray in bonded form not free form
>>
>> More excuses. Regardless of the form, it leaks and lets off vapors.
>>
>> Although the mercury is bonded to the other metals when used to fill
>teeth, it
>> can be freed in the form of vapour during chewing and tooth-brushing.
>>
>> Jan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

.... .. ..che.. ......

Its amalgamated ... but guess what?

In twenty years, ever see how cheezy the amalgam looks? An analysis of
the composition (analysis of the amalgamation) will reveal lots less
mercury.

In that regard, Jan Drew and her minions are correct.

Where they are not correct is that with regards toxicology, "the dose
is the poison."

JOEL



On 9 Jun 2004 16:43:46 -0700, dentist_dent@yahoo.com (R.M.AL Kowafi
BDS) wrote:

>I donot think that amalgam as filling material will be toxic
>because that mercuray in bonded form not free form

.... .. ..che.. ......

Why do you say that?

Just because it has been the topic of discussion for tens maybe
hundreds of thousands of posts since 1995, does not mean Jan is done
..... YET!

JOEL



On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 03:13:45 +0000 (UTC), "John Chewter"
<john.chewter@btinternet.com> wrote:

>Here we go again.
>
>This has been done to death in here.
>
>
>"Jan" <jdrew63929@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:20040609214323.04187.00000511@mb-m25.aol.com...
>> >Subject: dental amalgam
>> >From: dentist_dent@yahoo.com (R.M.AL Kowafi BDS)
>> >Date: 6/9/2004 3:43 PM Pacific Standard Time
>> >Message-id: <86735676.0406091543.707b766c@posting.google.com >
>> >
>> >I donot think that amalgam as filling material will be toxic
>> >because that mercuray in bonded form not free form
>>
>> More excuses. Regardless of the form, it leaks and lets off vapors.
>>
>> Although the mercury is bonded to the other metals when used to fill
>teeth, it
>> can be freed in the form of vapour during chewing and tooth-brushing.
>>
>> Jan
>

.... .. ..che.. ......

...... as long as Line Dancing is not out of vogue, Jan is here and
will remain here and she will continue to continue .......



On 10 Jun 2004 05:42:19 GMT, jdrew63929@aol.com (Jan) wrote:

>>Subject: Re: dental amalgam
>>From: "John Chewter" john.chewter@btinternet.com
>>Date: 6/9/2004 7:13 PM Pacific Standard Time
>>Message-id: <ca8jl8$fmt$1@sparta.btinternet.com>
>>
>>Here we go again.
>>
>>This has been done to death in here.
>
>And will continue as long as the denial remains. There are still people out
>there STIL suffering and STILL searching for thier health problem and it is way
>past time to consider the teeth.
>
>Jan
>
>
>
>>"Jan" <jdrew63929@aol.com> wrote in message
>>news:20040609214323.04187.00000511@mb-m25.aol.com...
>>> >Subject: dental amalgam
>>> >From: dentist_dent@yahoo.com (R.M.AL Kowafi BDS)
>>> >Date: 6/9/2004 3:43 PM Pacific Standard Time
>>> >Message-id: <86735676.0406091543.707b766c@posting.google.com >
>>> >
>>> >I donot think that amalgam as filling material will be toxic
>>> >because that mercuray in bonded form not free form
>>>
>>> More excuses. Regardless of the form, it leaks and lets off vapors.
>>>
>>> Although the mercury is bonded to the other metals when used to fill
>>teeth, it
>>> can be freed in the form of vapour during chewing and tooth-brushing.
>>>
>>> Jan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

.... .. ..che.. ......

On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 01:10:27 -0400, "ta" <ta33@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>R.M.AL Kowafi BDS wrote:
>> I donot think that amalgam as filling material will be toxic
>> because that mercuray in bonded form not free form
>
>"Anyone who does not believe mercury is emitted from amalgams should
>consider doing the following.
>
>Have your local dentist make 10 amalgams using the same material he/she
>places in your mouth.

I wish. Do you know what the going rate is for amalgams?

JOEL

> Take these 10 amalgams to your nearest research
>university's department of chemistry or toxicology department and have them
>determine how much mercury is being emitted. For example, have them
>calculate how long it would take a single spill of hardened amalgam to make
>a gallon of water too toxic to p*** EPA standards as drinking water.
>
>You will then have an answer from an unbiased, solid group of scientists who
>are trained to do such determinations. Also, remember the level of mercury
>they measure would not include the increase that would occur with amalgams
>in the mouth where chewing, grinding your teeth, drinking hot liquids and
>galvanism greatly increase the release of mercury. Since this approach can
>be easily done by anyone don't you think the ADA, FDA and other amalgam
>supporters would have this published by now if the level of mercury released
>was below the danger level?
>
>Here is their attempt.
>
>According to an ADA spokesman he has "estimated" that only 0.08 micrograms
>of mercury per amalgam per day is taken into the human body. Applying simple
>math to this "estimate" of 0.08 micrograms/ day one would divide this amount
>by 8,640 (24 hours/day X 60 minutes/hour X 6 ten second intervals/minute) to
>determine the amount of mercury in micrograms available for a ten second
>mercury vapor analysis.
>
>Consider that somewhere between one-half to five-sixths of the mercury
>released would be into the tooth (that area of the amalgam that exists below
>the visibly exposed amalgam surface) and not into the oral air. In addition,
>some mercury in the oral air would be rapidly absorbed into the saliva and
>oral mucosa (mercury loves hydrophobic cell membranes) and also not be
>measured by the mercury analyzer.
>
>Further, as the mercury analyzer pulls mercury containing oral air into the
>analysis chamber, mercury free ambient air rushes into the oral cavity
>decreasing the mercury concentration. Taking all of this into account you
>can calculate that most mercury analyzers could not detect this "estimated"
>0.08 micrograms/day level of mercury even if you had several amalgams.
>
>However, the fact is that it is quite easy to detect mercury emitting from
>one amalgam using these analyzers. Therefore, the "estimate" by this ADA
>spokesman is way to low.
>
>Also, if you gently rub the amalgam with a tooth-brush the amount of mercury
>emitted goes up dramatically. This is a test anyone can do and demonstrate
>to any group. The ADA spokesmen state that the mercury vapor analyzer is not
>accurate at determining oral mercury levels and they are quite correct.
>
>However, using this instrument would greatly underestimate the amount of
>mercury exiting the amalgam. The very fact that the mercury analyzer detects
>high levels of oral mercury strongly indicates the emitted amount of mercury
>is too high to be acceptable.
>
>Mercury release from dental amalgams is also the reason OSHA has used this
>analyzer to make the dentists place unused amalgam in a sealed container
>under liquid glycerin. This is done so that the mercury vapors from the
>amalgams will not contaminate the dental office making it an unsafe place to
>work.
>
>This is also the reason the EPA insists that removed amalgam filling and
>extracted teeth containing amalgam material be picked up and disposed of as
>toxic waste. Apparently, the only safe place for amalgams is in the human
>mouth if you believe what the ADA believes."
>
>http://www.mercola.com/fcgi/pf/2001/...gam_safety.htm
>