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Old 09-18-2005   #1
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Default questions for for Montygram- copper supplement

I am 35 years old woman.

1.I have slight copper deficiency: 69 mcg/dl (range 80-155).
iron and magnesium are o.k.
a. what can be the reasons for that?
b. what is the best copper supllement?- gluconate? sebacate?

2.I would to ear your opinion, what is the meaning of high RBC (RED
BLOOD CELLS) and low

 
Old 09-18-2005   #2
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correction : high RBC+low MCV

 
Old 09-18-2005   #3
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more things:

1. before 2.5 month I had betamethasone injection, for vasomotor
rhinits. It had bad influence on my health.
Is it possible that this steroid lowered copper level?


2. my usual blood pressure until 3 month ago was 110/70. For the last
3 month it droped to 82/49.
what can cause such a reduction in blood pressure?

does copper deficiency affect blood pressure?

3. are there are risks of oxidation and imbalance with other minerals
at taking copper supplement 1mg?

 
Old 09-18-2005   #4
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"lian" <liat222@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1127052678.510227.273440@o13g2000cwo.googlegr oups.com...
> I am 35 years old woman.
>
> 1.I have slight copper deficiency: 69 mcg/dl (range 80-155).
> iron and magnesium are o.k.
> a. what can be the reasons for that?
> b. what is the best copper supllement?- gluconate? sebacate?
>
> 2.I would to ear your opinion, what is the meaning of high RBC (RED
> BLOOD CELLS) and low
>


I am perplexed as to why they did the copper level. It is very unusual to
have one done. I don't believe I have ever seen one requested in the many
years I have worked.
I am leery of the cir***stance of who and where it was ordered and by who
did the level.
Here is a good link about copper.

http://www.merck.com/mrkshared/mmanu...hapter4/4j.jsp

Excess copper as in Wilson's disease can cause a hemolytic anemia along with
liver disease etc.

A high RBC count is known as polycythemia. It may be primary or relative,
reactive. It can be seen in hypoxic lung diseases, cigarette smokers,
asthma, or in heart disorders involving circulatory conditions.
The MCV is the average size of the red blood cell meaning they are small.
If you have an increase demand for red cell production and a limited amount
of iron then one ends up with small iron deficient red cells although the
total iron body stores may be normal or low.
The other possibility of a high red cell count and a low MCV involves
thal***emia or hemoglobinopathies common in certain areas of the world where
malaria is also common.
A high RBC with an MCV cutoff of 80 has a high negative predictor.
Thal***emia can be ruled out if the MCV is higher than 80.



 
Old 09-19-2005   #5
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Could you provide more details, such as:

1. Your diet, in detail.

2. The amount of sleep you get and the quality of your sleep.

3. Drinking, smoking, drug use ("recreational," OTC, or prescribed).

4. Family history.

5. Actual symptoms, such as severe fatigue.

And anything else you find unusual should be noted, such as a change in
bowel movements, skin discoloration, or odd sensations.

Robert covered your request in the way that an establishment doctor
would, which is fine, but incomplete, in light of the recent evidence
for molecular-level mechanisms. There is also no overall theoretical
framework for "modern medicine," but mostly observations, and of course
the mumbling about genes, DNA, pathogens, as well as "idopathic"
causes, no of which can cure anything (for the most part) at this
point, aside from the obvious things done decades ago.

 
Old 09-19-2005   #6
..ntygr..
 
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I take a little copper gluconate, the brand I have now is Twin Labs. I
open the caps and sprinkle a small amount on food (2 mg. capsules).
One brand I tried smelled horrible when I opened the container, so
check for that and bring it back if it smells strange.

These tests really don't mean much, but symptoms do, if you have any.
Be careful not to take too much zinc or iron.

At your age I began to have terrible gastrointestinal problems, and
many people in their mid to late 30s have all kinds of problems because
the "youth ***ociated hormones" diminish. Make sure your cholesterol
is around 200 or a little higher, and of course anything that would
oxidize the cholesterol is a major problem. You can start taking a
little pregnenolone at this point. If you want to try and delay
menopause significantly, take a lot of pregnenolone, meaning about
twice what the bottle says. It should be safe, but this is uncharted
territory. If your cholesterol is 200 or so, you could just take what
the bottle suggests, which is what I think I would do if I were a woman
of your age.

What will help a great deal is to avoid stressors, such as highly
unsaturated oils, fried food, and foods containing cholesterol cooked
while exposed to air. Also not getting enough sleep, smoking, etc. are
stressors that should be avoided. Eating berries and dark chocolate is
a good idea, as well as making sure you are getting good quality
protein. I eat a boiled egg each day, several ounces of raw cheese, a
cup or so of whole milk yogurt, and some ice cream (without
carrageenan, locust bean, guarr, carob, or other stuff that shouldn't
be there).

Having what they consider slightly low copper levels is not something
to worry much about, but I do think a little copper each day is a good
idea. I seem to have less hypersensitivity reactions since taking a
little copper and only taking zinc once every few days (and in small
amounts), which is consistent with what I guess is now conventional
wisdom about the antagonism between zinc and copper, and how this
effects the immune system.

 
Old 09-19-2005   #7
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"montygram" <nazztrader@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:1127084139.519800.284000@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Could you provide more details, such as:
>
> 1. Your diet, in detail.
>
> 2. The amount of sleep you get and the quality of your sleep.
>
> 3. Drinking, smoking, drug use ("recreational," OTC, or prescribed).
>
> 4. Family history.
>
> 5. Actual symptoms, such as severe fatigue.
>
> And anything else you find unusual should be noted, such as a change in
> bowel movements, skin discoloration, or odd sensations.
>
> Robert covered your request in the way that an establishment doctor
> would, which is fine, but incomplete, in light of the recent evidence
> for molecular-level mechanisms.


You mean all disease can be cured by eating coconut oil.

There is also no overall theoretical
> framework for "modern medicine,"


You don't practice "modern medicine", nice.

but mostly observations, and of course
> the mumbling about genes, DNA, pathogens, as well as "idopathic"
> causes, no of which can cure anything (for the most part) at this
> point, aside from the obvious things done decades ago.
>


LOL. You don't need all of that to cure things do you.
No genes or DNA or pathogens or anything scientific, modern medicine.
Seriously I don't know why people hate you.


 
Old 09-19-2005   #8
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thanks for the replies.


Monty, I start writing all my history regarding my health, with many
details.
It came to be 6! pages. So now I try to shorten it, and will post it
tomorrow. Hope you look for it tomorrow, read and give me your wise
opinion and advices.

 
Old 09-19-2005   #9
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"lian" <liat222@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> thanks for the replies.
>
>
> Monty, I start writing all my history regarding my health, with many
> details.
> It came to be 6! pages. So now I try to shorten it, and will post it
> tomorrow. Hope you look for it tomorrow, read and give me your wise
> opinion and advices.
>

Spare yourself from private details as Monty's answers are all the same,
oxidative damage and guess what he will recommend?


 
Old 09-19-2005   #10
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I don't see my messege, so add it again.

thanks for the replies.
I am now writing my health history and problem. It's long (6 pages),
and I try to shorten it.
Please look for my story tomorrow.
Hope you will have the patience to read it and tell me your opinion.

thanks

 

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