02-13-2008
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Re: Consider buying American!
>The truth is that the "Big Three" have no integrity, no characters and >had not produced anything good enough to hold on to. Why would you >hold on to them? All cars are simply transportation and when they wear out you throw them away. The japs forced the Americans to improve the quality of the cars but in that effort they all became clones and you really have a hard time telling any of them apart. |
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02-13-2008
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Re: Consider buying American!
<PCman.64306025@bloglines.com> wrote: >> All cars are simply transportation and when they wear out you throw >> them away. The japs forced the Americans to improve the quality of the >> cars but in that effort they all became clones and you really have a >> hard time telling any of them apart. > >I beg to differ. Some people like to buy cars (as opossed as renting/ >leasing) and maintain them properly to get their money's worth. And >one would expect that after spending one's hard earned money it would >work every time. Same goes for computers or any other product, for >that matter. > >If Japanese cars offer a trouble-free experience for the consumer, >it's no wonder people prefer them. As per clones, I have a hard time >digesting the Saturn Ion, Chevrolet Impala or Dogde Magnum designs and >can't find anything similar, thank goodness. Most people I know buy japanese cars because they will run for a long time without any real maintenance and now American cars are much the same way. Once you do start actually having your jap car worked on the cost rises sharply. As was pointed out to me here, they require special knowlege and lots of special tools along with very expensive parts. BTW anyone who thinks of a car as an investment is an idiot. It is simply an expense. A piece of metal you pour money into and drive until it quits or you trade it in. The best use of your car buying dollar is to get a junker and drive it until the wheels fall off but most people live a little higher on the food chain. God bless the people who buy new cars and trade them in a year or two but they are certainly paying a lot for that extravagance. There are a few "collector cars" that do increase in value but only if you don't drive them much and keep them in showroom condition. (or totally restore them at an expense roughly equal to the market value) Even then, I doubt anyone actually makes a dime on their total "investment". |
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02-13-2008
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Re: Consider buying American!
<PCman.64306025@bloglines.com> wrote: >I read that a Chrysler CEO physically covered his ears when a chief >engineer brought up quality issues with some parts. A mechanic told me >he was getting recall notices for his Ford Focus for simple things >they should have realized before rolling the car out. According to >him, their idea was to sell the car and fix the problems, if any, >later. Kind of like Microsoft. |
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02-13-2008
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Re: Consider buying American!
In article <r7j6r3pl4nhora688mao60d1eu5jpfje63@4ax.com>,
gfretwell@aol.com wrote: > Most people I know buy japanese cars because they will run for a long > time without any real maintenance and now American cars are much the > same way. But without a track record, nobody really knows that the American cars perform like the Japanese nameplates in that regard. It's a chicken and egg thing--who's going to try it, when it's a 99% guarantee that buying a Honda gives you what you want and it's a 99% chance that buying a GM gives you nothing but headaches? |
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02-14-2008
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Re: Consider buying American!
still just me wrote:
>On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 11:10:53 -0800 (PST), PCman ><PCman.64306025@bloglines.com> wrote: > > > >>I read that a Chrysler CEO physically covered his ears when a chief >>engineer brought up quality issues with some parts. A mechanic told me >>he was getting recall notices for his Ford Focus for simple things >>they should have realized before rolling the car out. According to >>him, their idea was to sell the car and fix the problems, if any, >>later. >> >> > >Kind of like Microsoft. > > Ya! Just for giggles, several years ago I wrote to Gates suggesting that it was the perfect time for Microsoft to get into the car business. He could do the Microsoft thing and the Intel thing all in one shot. I suggested that he devise an operating system for electric cars and come up with a data bus (like the PCI in PCs), power bus, and operating system. But he p***ed. P***ing on ideas like this, he's never gonna make it business |
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02-14-2008
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Re: Consider buying American!
<gfretwell@aol.com> wrote in message news:r7j6r3pl4nhora688mao60d1eu5jpfje63@4ax.com...
> Most people I know buy japanese cars because they will run for a long > time without any real maintenance and now American cars are much the > same way. > > Once you do start actually having your jap car worked on the cost > rises sharply. As was pointed out to me here, they require special > knowlege and lots of special tools along with very expensive parts. What a BS... You should not believe in everything you hear! > BTW anyone who thinks of a car as an investment is an idiot. It is > simply an expense. A piece of metal you pour money into and drive > until it quits or you trade it in. Agree. > The best use of your car buying > dollar is to get a junker and drive it until the wheels fall off but > most people live a little higher on the food chain. God bless the > people who buy new cars and trade them in a year or two but > they are certainly paying a lot for that extravagance. For some people it is not big money and they can aford a new toy every so often. I can understand driving same car for 10 years can be boring experience but I am too cheap myself to buy new cars often :-) So for such people "best usage" for money might to buy toys => new cars. |
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