Nextel

OK, two of my buddies have nextel and another is gettin it next week. I
think it is awsome to be able to use the walkie talkies, and the free
incoming. but tell me... is it really worth it?
Can someone talk me into getting nextel?

Keep in mind Jason is a Nextel hater and doesn't appear to have
anything good to say about them.

Some things to keep in mind about Nextel: (my oppinion)

1. Nextel is first to market, that is a costly road. Their prices are
higher, but many people are soon going to discover the shining star of
Verizon push-to-talk is going to fade as problems and slowness becomes
obvious. If anyone believes the Verizon PTT will perform as well or
better than Nextel, they'll be among the primary complainers as their
expectations are too high.

2. Verizon PTT nationwide? Not likely anytime soon.

3. As for Nextel, you need to watch the billing, I find consistent
problems with "accidenly" charging for various things. They're
usually good about crediting back their mistakes, but I have to catch
them and frequently do.

4. After you setup your service, going forward ebay for your phone
upgrades and accessories. Upgrading your phone with Nextel is
expensive and takes a contract signed in blood for a year.

5. Choose your rate plan wisely. They recently added two new plans
that are just nationwide DC added to one and NWDC and 2-way messaging
added to the other. If you pick the all-inclusive, I doubt you and
take either of those out because it's now part of your standard plan.
If you want the features, go with the lower cost package and add on.
That way you can delete the features later if you don't want them.

6. As for Nationwide DC, I'd save on the $10 a month and pay the 10
cents a minute. They bill DC by the second and using 100 minutes of
Nationwide DC isn't likely for a non-business user.

All in all I love the service, just wish the pricing and rate plans
were less slimy.

That's funny. I still have double the minutes you have and half the
price with 2 phones!!!

(George Blanas) wrote in article
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Quote:

I disagree that Nextel is so much more expensive than Verizon. I have 3
Nextel phones with a total of 1hostinghosting0 min. mine has Online Plus, all have
unlimited DC, long distance, voice mail, etc. I'm paying $180/mo.
Verizon would be approx. the same. Look for the promo's, you can get a
great deal.

--
Cut the cord, go wireless!

(Jason Lowe) wrote in article
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Quote:

No, I think if you are going to use the Walkie Talkies...wait until next
month when Verizon brings it out. They have better cellular service and
by far better prices. I had Nextel and I was paying $180 for 2
phones...now I pay $100 for 2 with double the minutes and extra
features!

"Scott" < in article
<BbnVa.117584$:

Quote:

OK, two of my buddies have nextel and another is gettin it next week. I
think it is awsome to be able to use the walkie talkies, and the free
incoming. but tell me... is it really worth it?
Can someone talk me into getting nextel?

[posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]

I think VZW is going to have a good system once its operational. The
thing I think will be good is the "buddy list" feature, where you will
see who is avaliable, instead of trying to connect to get the "not
avaliable" error. But then again, who knows. Im not backing VZW, I use
them for my prepaid wireless, and iv never owned Nextel (getting one
this coming week), but I think VZW will have a good network, but I
dont think they will get as many sign ups as expected, since 1. In
order for me to DC someone, they would have to be either on Nextel or
VZW, no intercarrier and 2. Nextel has proven itself in the DC
segment.

Stanley settled back into the couch, and
Steve < to him:

Quote:

I think VZW is going to have a good system once its operational. The
thing I think will be good is the "buddy list" feature, where you will
see who is avaliable, instead of trying to connect to get the "not
avaliable" error.

Unless they include "invisiblity", I wouldn't touch it. Whether my
phone is on is *not* an indicator of whether I'm "available"... at
least on Nextel, if you want to know if someone's on, you gotta
commit.

Cheers,
-- jra
--
Jay R. Ashworth
Member of the Technical Staff Baylink
The Suncoast Freenet The Things I Think
Tampa Bay, Florida +1 727 647 1274

God, unlike Anya, is fond of bunnies. -- Chelsea Christenson

Stanley settled back into the couch, and
Ernest < to him:

Quote:

As far as I heard from a local Two-Way Radio store, Verizon's system is NOT
going to function like Nextel's. They told me that Verizon's system has a
delay to connect, unlike Nextel D.C. system. Also, for some that don't know,
the reason Nextel has this system was due to Patent rights. Now 10 years
later, everyone can use the same type of system. I would not expect Verizon
to suddenly be able to rival Nextel's system overnight. IMO

Let's note here that Motorola owns those patents, and a couple of
Nextel compehostinghostinghostingors prove that this wasn't the *only* thing keeping
people out of the market. Nextel is on non-cellular allocated
bandwidth... because they went out and spent the money to buy
existing SMR licenses market by market. (Nextel, in case you missed
it, is *not* a cellular phone... legally, or technically. It's
Specialized Mobile Radio. That's, among other things, why it's at
800MHz instead of 900.)

Cheers,
-- jra
--
Jay R. Ashworth
Member of the Technical Staff Baylink
The Suncoast Freenet The Things I Think
Tampa Bay, Florida +1 727 647 1274

God, unlike Anya, is fond of bunnies. -- Chelsea Christenson

There is no delay to connect. In fact, it is simultaneously when you
talk, Nextel does have a 1 second delay people forget about!

"Ernest" < in article
<YlUVa.3701$:

Quote:

As far as I heard from a local Two-Way Radio store, Verizon's system is NOT
going to function like Nextel's. They told me that Verizon's system has a
delay to connect, unlike Nextel D.C. system. Also, for some that don't know,
the reason Nextel has this system was due to Patent rights. Now 10 years
later, everyone can use the same type of system. I would not expect Verizon
to suddenly be able to rival Nextel's system overnight. IMO

"Steve" < in message
news: om...

Quote:

I think VZW is going to have a good system once its operational. The
thing I think will be good is the "buddy list" feature, where you will
see who is avaliable, instead of trying to connect to get the "not
avaliable" error. But then again, who knows. Im not backing VZW, I use
them for my prepaid wireless, and iv never owned Nextel (getting one
this coming week), but I think VZW will have a good network, but I
dont think they will get as many sign ups as expected, since 1. In
order for me to DC someone, they would have to be either on Nextel or
VZW, no intercarrier and 2. Nextel has proven itself in the DC
segment.

[posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]

When you think about how much infrastructure and A to D and D to A
conversions that your voice goes thru, one second is pretty damn good
IMHO especially when is goes Nationwide!
--
Mark KS4VT

(Jason Lowe) wrote in article
<:

Quote:

There is no delay to connect. In fact, it is simultaneously when you
talk, Nextel does have a 1 second delay people forget about!

"Ernest" < in article
<YlUVa.3701$:

Quote:

As far as I heard from a local Two-Way Radio store, Verizon's system is NOT
going to function like Nextel's. They told me that Verizon's system has a
delay to connect, unlike Nextel D.C. system. Also, for some that don't know,
the reason Nextel has this system was due to Patent rights. Now 10 years
later, everyone can use the same type of system. I would not expect Verizon
to suddenly be able to rival Nextel's system overnight. IMO

"Steve" < in message
news: om...

Quote:

I think VZW is going to have a good system once its operational. The
thing I think will be good is the "buddy list" feature, where you will
see who is avaliable, instead of trying to connect to get the "not
avaliable" error. But then again, who knows. Im not backing VZW, I use
them for my prepaid wireless, and iv never owned Nextel (getting one
this coming week), but I think VZW will have a good network, but I
dont think they will get as many sign ups as expected, since 1. In
order for me to DC someone, they would have to be either on Nextel or
VZW, no intercarrier and 2. Nextel has proven itself in the DC
segment.

[posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]

there is no standard "1-second delay." its true that sometimes things get
delayed, like they do in any system, but theres no 1 second delay.

"MArk Filla" < in message
news:

Quote:

When you think about how much infrastructure and A to D and D to A
conversions that your voice goes thru, one second is pretty damn good
IMHO especially when is goes Nationwide!
--
Mark KS4VT

(Jason Lowe) wrote in article
<:

Quote:

There is no delay to connect. In fact, it is simultaneously when you
talk, Nextel does have a 1 second delay people forget about!

"Ernest" < in article
<YlUVa.3701$:

Quote:

As far asI heard from a local Two-Way Radio store, Verizon's system is

NOT

Quote:

going to function like Nextel's. They told me that Verizon's system

has a

Quote:

delay to connect, unlike Nextel D.C. system. Also, for some that don't

know,

Quote:

the reason Nextel has this system was due to Patent rights. Now 10

years

Quote:

later, everyone can use the same type of system. I would not expect

Verizon

Quote:

to suddenly be able to rival Nextel's system overnight. IMO

"Steve" < in message
news: om...
I think VZW is going to have a good system once its operational. The
thing I think will be good is the "buddy list" feature, where you

will

Quote:

see who is avaliable, instead of trying to connect to get the "not
avaliable" error. But then again, who knows. Im not backing VZW, I

use

Quote:

them for my prepaid wireless, and iv never owned Nextel (getting one
this coming week), but I think VZW will have a good network, but I
dont think they will get as many sign ups as expected, since 1. In
order for me to DC someone, they would have to be either on Nextel

or

Quote:

VZW, no intercarrier and 2. Nextel has proven itself in the DC
segment.

[posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]

Just one thought...remember the war interviews in Iraq when a local
correspondent would ask a field reporter in Iraq a question? Remember how
long it took for that person in Iraq to hear the question first and then
replying? That is what the Verizon PTT service will be like. Instant...it
is not! At least not like DC.

"Jason Lowe" < in message
news:

Quote:

No, I think if you are going to use the Walkie Talkies...wait until next
month when Verizon brings it out. They have better cellular service and
by far better prices. I had Nextel and I was paying $180 for 2
phones...now I pay $100 for 2 with double the minutes and extra
features!

"Scott" < in article
<BbnVa.117584$:

Quote:

OK, two of my buddies have nextel and another is gettin it next week. I
think it is awsome to be able to use the walkie talkies, and the free
incoming. but tell me... is it really worth it?
Can someone talk me into getting nextel?

[posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]

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