Playstation 3

So much for the inevitable port...

I just finished MGS4 last night. Fantastic game! Well worth the
straight 10s. It was a far better game than GTA4, IMHO.

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Bill Cable - Steelers Fan & Star Wars Collector
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On Aug 26, 1:39hostingpm, Bill Cable <> wrote:
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> So much for the inevitable port...
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> I just finished MGS4 last night. hostingFantastic game! hostingWell worth the
> straight 10s. hostingIt was a far better game than GTA4, IMHO.
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> Bill Cable - Steelers Fan & Star Wars Collectorhttp://CreatureCantina.comhosting <----- funny!
>

What kind of disturbs me sometimes, because a lot of people ask me
about this PS3/360 question, is that it's not about the hardware," he
concluded. "I want people to look at the game itself. Sometimes I even
feel like it should be on a PC so that people don't ask me about
hardware and platforms."

He didn't say "probably". He said "may". There's a wide gulf between
the two - and it's that sort of non-confirmation that says, "Yes, it's
coming to 360 and PC."

And please don't even try to tell me MGS4 is not possible on a PC.

In alt.games.video.xbox Bill Cable <> wrote:
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> So much for the inevitable port...

Yeah, yeah. We've heard this before about other games and other consoles,
but it seems everyone changes their tune once money gets thrown around.

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It's not broken. It's...advanced.

On Aug 26, 7:21hostingpm, Doug Jacobs <> wrote:
> In alt.games.video.xbox Bill Cable <> wrote:
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> > So much for the inevitable port...
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> Yeah, yeah. hostingWe've heard this before about other games and other consoles,
> but it seems everyone changes their tune once money gets thrown around.
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> It's not broken. hostingIt's...advanced.

Shane Bettenhausen: Devil May Cry 4 will NEVER EVER EVER be on the
360. Heck, Blig Merk was blathering how UT3 would never be on the 360
because somehow it couldn't handle the Unreal engine.

On Aug 26, 2:39hostingpm, Bill Cable <> wrote:
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> So much for the inevitable port...
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> I just finished MGS4 last night. hostingFantastic game! hostingWell worth the
> straight 10s. hostingIt was a far better game than GTA4, IMHO.

You're the first fairly reasonable person I've heard state that MGS4
deserves straight 10s.

Most people conclude that it was victim of the same overhype as Halo 3
and GTA IV (although not to the same degree).

On Aug 26, 5:25hostingpm, Jonah Falcon <> wrote:
> He didn't say "probably". He said "may". There's a wide gulf between
> the two - and it's that sort of non-confirmation that says, "Yes, it's
> coming to 360 and PC."

Please explain how you come to this conclusion. He very clearly states
that the game is probably not possible on the Xbox 360 because the
code was very much optimized for the Playstation 3's architecture.

His tone and his choice of words make it quite obvious that he is not
involved in any attempt to produce an Xbox 360 version (which would be
nowhere near a straight port) or even interested in trying that.

His statements about PCs are just to illustrate that he's sick and
tired of people talking about platforms and would rather they just
enjoy the game for what it is.

> And please don't even try to tell me MGS4 is not possible on a PC.

It's not about whether it's possible on the PC. It's about whether
it's even worth trying to create a PC version which would require the
same drastic redesign as an Xbox 360 version would.

On Aug 26, 6:41hostingpm, The alMIGHTY N <> wrote:
> On Aug 26, 5:25hostingpm, Jonah Falcon <> wrote:
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> > He didn't say "probably". He said "may". There's a wide gulf between
> > the two - and it's that sort of non-confirmation that says, "Yes, it's
> > coming to 360 and PC."
>
> Please explain how you come to this conclusion. He very clearly states
> that the game is probably not possible on the Xbox 360 because the
> code was very much optimized for the Playstation 3's architecture.
>
> His tone and his choice of words make it quite obvious that he is not
> involved in any attempt to produce an Xbox 360 version (which would be
> nowhere near a straight port) or even interested in trying that.
>
> His statements about PCs are just to illustrate that he's sick and
> tired of people talking about platforms and would rather they just
> enjoy the game for what it is.

Wait........Jonah is now trying to parse words to try to justify his
conclusion that MGS4 will come out for the 360? The same Jonah who
claimed that the PS3 could NEVER, EVER handle Gears of War? And whose
GoW claim was refuted by UT3 for the PS3 having the same type of
graphics as Gears?

And believe me, I can understand why Kojima is tired of people talking
about platforms. Half (at least!) the posts here are about how my
dad's console can kick your dad's console's hostinghostinghosting, thanks to geniuses
such as Bligmerk and Jonah.


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> > And please don't even try to tell me MGS4 is not possible on a PC.
>
> It's not about whether it's possible on the PC. It's about whether
> it's even worth trying to create a PC version which would require the
> same drastic redesign as an Xbox 360 version would.

On Aug 26, 6:35hostingpm, The alMIGHTY N <> wrote:
> On Aug 26, 2:39hostingpm, Bill Cable <> wrote:
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> > So much for the inevitable port...
>
> > I just finished MGS4 last night. hostingFantastic game! hostingWell worth the
> > straight 10s. hostingIt was a far better game than GTA4, IMHO.
>
> You're the first fairly reasonable person I've heard state that MGS4
> deserves straight 10s.
>
> Most people conclude that it was victim of the same overhype as Halo 3
> and GTA IV (although not to the same degree).

Straight 10s? Nah. Act 3's lost possibilities negated that. How
many times could the game have transitioned from cutscene to gameplay
during Act 3.........but didn't? Now, if more of the game had been
playable.....that would be another story. Act 4 was great, and while
I wish Act 1 was longer, it was great, as was Act 2. I only started
Act 5, and haven't gotten around to playing the game since, for some
unknown reason.

Like Halo 3, it's a good game that's a love letter to the fans....but
is often too much a tease, and not a long distance performer.

Bill Cable wrote:
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> So much for the inevitable port...
>
> I just finished MGS4 last night. Fantastic game! Well worth the
> straight 10s. It was a far better game than GTA4, IMHO.
>

I don't really have a point, so I'm just going to post random and
loosely related thoughts...

- I really liked MGS4, but if I was a reviewer I wouldn't have given it
a 10/10 rating.

- I tend to get suspicious when any game gets a 10/10 rating.

- Having said that, I think people who consistently post on forums "no
game should ever get 10/10 because no game is truly perfect" are morons.

- I'm gravitating towards a 5 point rating system, which ironically I
used to think was dumb.

- The problem I find with the ten point scale is that it's fundamentally
flawed. For example, logically an average game should get a 5, yet we
all know that the average rating is actually 7. So rather than having 4
ways of telling us a game isn't worth buying, we now have 6. What is it
about a game that gets a 2 that makes it worse than a 4? Why even make
the distinction?

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