Various Topics on Printers

..u..

We have not yet tried the 1710 or 1750 with Kit #6 so we dont know if
it will work.

There should be no damage done if it does not work.

We will probably get around to testing these models, but as of now we
have not done so. We have to buy a 1710 printer to do this, so it
will happen only once we get enough enquiries.

Kind regards,
John Frentzas
Sales
www.123refills.com


On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 17:51:11 GMT, gray <senioruser@go.com> wrote:

>Has anyone experimented with refilling the 1710 drum with the off
>brand Universal kit #6. This kit works with the printers listed
>below. Unfortunately the 1710 is not in the list. It would seem
>strange that the 1700 series is the only one that is not compatible
>with this kit. If it were to work we could cut our cost from about
>$75 for one drum/toner kit from Samsung to about $38 for two refills
>including tool to punch the hole. Based upon 3000 sheet from each
>alternative the cost per sheet would be about $.025 for Samsung
>original to $.00633 per sheet. After the completion of the second
>refill we would need to get a new ML1710D3/XAA by Samsung.
>
>I wrote to Samsung to find out the expected capacity of the drum that
>came with the unit. When i get the "official" answer i will post it
>here.
>
>
>
>ML Series
>85, 85G, 1010, 1020M, 1210, 1220M, 1250, 4500, 4600, 5000A, 5050G,
>5100A, 6000, 6040, 6050, 6060, 6060N, 6100, 6100N, 7000, 7000N, 7000P,
>7050
>
>MSYS-5100 & 7800
>
>OML 680A & 8630A
>
>QL Series
>5100A, 6000A, 6050A, 6100, Quicklaser, Quicklaser 5100A, Quicklaser
>84, Quicklaser 85 & 85G
>
>SF Series
>5100 & 5100P
>
>Thanks
>
>
> On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 09:55:19 -0700, Steve <a@b.inv> wrote:
>
>>I think the box says something about including a 1,000-copy cartridge.
>>Does this mean it's actually a smaller cartridge, or that it's not
>>filled to capacity? Just checking to see if I'd have to purchase
>>another empty cartridge, in addition to toner refills at
>>tonerrefill.com. Thanks!

..inne..

This thread has been idle for a few months, but no one ever answered
the question about "starter cartridges"--or if anyone did, I missed
it. Is this 1000-page cartrige that comes with the printer physically
the same as the regular 3000-page cartrige, but only 1/3 full of
toner? ...or is this thing just a mini cartrige? If it is a "mini",
can it be refilled like a normal cartridge, but again yield only a
third of the prints of the normal cartrige?

On 06 Aug 2003 07:27:53 GMT, fredbillie@aol.comnospam (FredBillie)
wrote:

><< From: Steve a@b.inv
>Date: Tue, Aug 5, 2003 2:00 PM
>Message-id: <1ivvivcs1f6l9s5jnrs8ob7ktb2c6p7r7h@4ax.com>
>
>"Larry" <none@none.com> wrote:
>>Samsung uses a "Starter Cartridge", a practice a deplore. It's the main
>>reason I have not brought one of their low-end printers.
>
>Yep, that sucks. Just wanted to make sure it's actually the same as
>their regular cartridge, just not filled all the way with toner. So I
>can at least use refills without having to also purchase a new empty
>(or full) cartridge first...
> >><BR><BR>
>Well, since I bought my Printer for $99.99 after the rebate and in store
>discount at best Buy and a new cartridge is $79.95 (Best Buy) I find it fair to
>use a partial cartridge to get the unit price down. Heck, if they had put a
>full cartridge in the printer the net price for the Laser printer sans the
>cartridge would have been only $20.04!

..S

Same as the regular, just not filled all the way. I refilled the one on
my ML-1750 with a full refill of toner with no issues.





>>This thread has been idle for a few months, but no one ever answered
>>the question about "starter cartridges"--or if anyone did, I missed
>>it. Is this 1000-page cartrige that comes with the printer physically
>>the same as the regular 3000-page cartrige, but only 1/3 full of
>>toner? ...or is this thing just a mini cartrige? If it is a "mini",
>>can it be refilled like a normal cartridge, but again yield only a
>>third of the prints of the normal cartrige?
>>
>>On 06 Aug 2003 07:27:53 GMT, fredbillie@aol.comnospam (FredBillie)
>>wrote:
>>
>>><< From: Steve a@b.inv
>>>Date: Tue, Aug 5, 2003 2:00 PM
>>>Message-id: <1ivvivcs1f6l9s5jnrs8ob7ktb2c6p7r7h@4ax.com>
>>>
>>>"Larry" <none@none.com> wrote:
>>>>Samsung uses a "Starter Cartridge", a practice a deplore. It's the main
>>>>reason I have not brought one of their low-end printers.
>>>
>>>Yep, that sucks. Just wanted to make sure it's actually the same as
>>>their regular cartridge, just not filled all the way with toner. So I
>>>can at least use refills without having to also purchase a new empty
>>>(or full) cartridge first...
>>> >><BR><BR>
>>>Well, since I bought my Printer for $99.99 after the rebate and in store
>>>discount at best Buy and a new cartridge is $79.95 (Best Buy) I find it fair to
>>>use a partial cartridge to get the unit price down. Heck, if they had put a
>>>full cartridge in the printer the net price for the Laser printer sans the
>>>cartridge would have been only $20.04!


JRS steinie**X**@pacbell.net
Please remove **X** to reply...

<--Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most-->

..inne..

Did you have to burn a hole in the cartridge to pour the toner
through, or is there a plug somewhere on this thing?

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 21:24:22 -0800, JRS <steinie**X**@pacbell.net>
wrote:

>
>Same as the regular, just not filled all the way. I refilled the one on
>my ML-1750 with a full refill of toner with no issues.
>
>
>
>
>
>>>This thread has been idle for a few months, but no one ever answered
>>>the question about "starter cartridges"--or if anyone did, I missed
>>>it. Is this 1000-page cartrige that comes with the printer physically
>>>the same as the regular 3000-page cartrige, but only 1/3 full of
>>>toner? ...or is this thing just a mini cartrige? If it is a "mini",
>>>can it be refilled like a normal cartridge, but again yield only a
>>>third of the prints of the normal cartrige?
>>>
>>>On 06 Aug 2003 07:27:53 GMT, fredbillie@aol.comnospam (FredBillie)
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>><< From: Steve a@b.inv
>>>>Date: Tue, Aug 5, 2003 2:00 PM
>>>>Message-id: <1ivvivcs1f6l9s5jnrs8ob7ktb2c6p7r7h@4ax.com>
>>>>
>>>>"Larry" <none@none.com> wrote:
>>>>>Samsung uses a "Starter Cartridge", a practice a deplore. It's the main
>>>>>reason I have not brought one of their low-end printers.
>>>>
>>>>Yep, that sucks. Just wanted to make sure it's actually the same as
>>>>their regular cartridge, just not filled all the way with toner. So I
>>>>can at least use refills without having to also purchase a new empty
>>>>(or full) cartridge first...
>>>> >><BR><BR>
>>>>Well, since I bought my Printer for $99.99 after the rebate and in store
>>>>discount at best Buy and a new cartridge is $79.95 (Best Buy) I find it fair to
>>>>use a partial cartridge to get the unit price down. Heck, if they had put a
>>>>full cartridge in the printer the net price for the Laser printer sans the
>>>>cartridge would have been only $20.04!
>
>
>JRS steinie**X**@pacbell.net
>Please remove **X** to reply...
>
><--Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most-->

..S

Yep, the Samsung's are easy, they have a plug you can easily pull out on
the end with just a screwdriver to lever it out, or a pair of pliers.

I got my refill kits from RechargX.

http://www.tonerrefillkits.com/refill_products094.htm






>>Did you have to burn a hole in the cartridge to pour the toner
>>through, or is there a plug somewhere on this thing?
>>
>>On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 21:24:22 -0800, JRS <steinie**X**@pacbell.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Same as the regular, just not filled all the way. I refilled the one on
>>>my ML-1750 with a full refill of toner with no issues.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>This thread has been idle for a few months, but no one ever answered
>>>>>the question about "starter cartridges"--or if anyone did, I missed
>>>>>it. Is this 1000-page cartrige that comes with the printer physically
>>>>>the same as the regular 3000-page cartrige, but only 1/3 full of
>>>>>toner? ...or is this thing just a mini cartrige? If it is a "mini",
>>>>>can it be refilled like a normal cartridge, but again yield only a
>>>>>third of the prints of the normal cartrige?
>>>>>
>>>>>On 06 Aug 2003 07:27:53 GMT, fredbillie@aol.comnospam (FredBillie)
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>><< From: Steve a@b.inv
>>>>>>Date: Tue, Aug 5, 2003 2:00 PM
>>>>>>Message-id: <1ivvivcs1f6l9s5jnrs8ob7ktb2c6p7r7h@4ax.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Larry" <none@none.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>Samsung uses a "Starter Cartridge", a practice a deplore. It's the main
>>>>>>>reason I have not brought one of their low-end printers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Yep, that sucks. Just wanted to make sure it's actually the same as
>>>>>>their regular cartridge, just not filled all the way with toner. So I
>>>>>>can at least use refills without having to also purchase a new empty
>>>>>>(or full) cartridge first...
>>>>>> >><BR><BR>
>>>>>>Well, since I bought my Printer for $99.99 after the rebate and in store
>>>>>>discount at best Buy and a new cartridge is $79.95 (Best Buy) I find it fair to
>>>>>>use a partial cartridge to get the unit price down. Heck, if they had put a
>>>>>>full cartridge in the printer the net price for the Laser printer sans the
>>>>>>cartridge would have been only $20.04!
>>>
>>>
>>>JRS steinie**X**@pacbell.net
>>>Please remove **X** to reply...
>>>
>>><--Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most-->


JRS steinie**X**@pacbell.net
Please remove **X** to reply...

<--Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most-->

..eati..

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 21:36:21 -0500, Guinness <noone@nowhere.com>
wrote:

>This thread has been idle for a few months, but no one ever answered
>the question about "starter cartridges"--or if anyone did, I missed
>it. Is this 1000-page cartrige that comes with the printer physically
>the same as the regular 3000-page cartrige, but only 1/3 full of
>toner? ...or is this thing just a mini cartrige? If it is a "mini",
>can it be refilled like a normal cartridge, but again yield only a
>third of the prints of the normal cartrige?

I have the 1710 and have bought refill toner, refilled it and it works
beautifully. My understanding is that it is a regular full size
cartridge filled to a small fraction of its capacity. The refilling is
very easy, just removing a soft plastic plug and pouring the new toner
in. I bought my toner from ebay. I'd like to give you the name of the
supplier but don't have it available at this moment.

G.T.

..cha.. ..a..

I tried my first refill and it was a failure. I guess the new
cartridges don't have the stopper; you have to actually carve a hole
into the thing to put toner in. I managed to do that, but when I shook
the cartridge, the toner went right out the bottom of the cartridge and
into the trash can I was working over.

Is it likely I did the procedure wrong, was the cartridge itself broken,
or has Samsung deliberately made it impossible to refill cartridges
because that's where the money is?

Thanks in advance.


-- mike