Various Topics on Python

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Joe Smith wrote:
> Xah Lee wrote:
>> of motherf***ing irrevalent drivel?
>
> I am greatly amused.
> A troll impersonating Xah Lee has made xah look like a total moron.
> LOL

Sorry, Joe, but why do you think this wasn't Xah?
Every detail of the post is consistent with his
recent postings.

And a secondary, but purely rhetorical, question:
how could the post have made him look like a moron
when he already looked like one?

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Peter Hansen wrote:

> Joe Smith wrote:
> > Xah Lee wrote:
> >> of motherf***ing irrevalent drivel?
> >
> > I am greatly amused.
> > A troll impersonating Xah Lee has made xah look like a total moron.
> > LOL
>
> Sorry, Joe, but why do you think this wasn't Xah?

why do you think "Joe" and "Xah" are two different persons? ;-)

</F>

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Fredrik Lundh wrote:
> Peter Hansen wrote:
>>Joe Smith wrote:
>>
>>>Xah Lee wrote:
>>>
>>>>of motherf***ing irrevalent drivel?
>>>
>>>I am greatly amused.
>>>A troll impersonating Xah Lee has made xah look like a total moron.
>>>LOL
>>
>>Sorry, Joe, but why do you think this wasn't Xah?
>
> why do you think "Joe" and "Xah" are two different persons? ;-)

Because Joe writes properly, and concisely. ;-)

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Ivan Van Laningham wrote:
> Richie Hindle wrote:
> >
> > [Xah]
> > > mother****ing ... ****ing ... ****ing ... ****ing ... **** ... ****ing
> > > ****ing ... ****ing ... mother ****ing ... ****ing ... piece of **** ...
> > > mother****ing ... ****ing ... ****ing ... big ***hole ... masturbation ...
> > > ****ing morons ... ****ing stupid ... ****head coders ... ****heads ...
> > > you ****ing ***es.
> >
> > > paypal me a hundred dollars and i'll rewrite the whole re doc in a few
> > > hours.
> >
> > Can we paypal you a hundred dollars to leave us alone? I'll pledge $10.
> > Are there another nine people here who'll do the same?
>
> Why don't we pay him $100 to re-write the PERL docs?

Interestingly, Richard Hindle's message was cl***ified as ham by my
spambayes, whereas your message was unsure. Could it be the
second-to-last word doing it? (-;

Gerrit.

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> why cannot this piece of **** writing give a single example of usage?


Actually, I can understand your frustration even if you should enhance
your vocabulary slightly. I often struggle with the Python
do***netation myself and I can't understand why a couple of examples
are so hard to give. When I laernt PHP I used the resources at php.net
exclusively, and that's because of the plenty of examples and the
newbie friendlyness. Recently I struggled with the regex module and
found the the do***entation being close to worthless. I'm not a CS guy,
I may have a harder fight grasping concepts. The re do***entation, like
much Python do***entation seems to be written with other people than my
kind in mind. Luckily I found this regex howto:
http://www.amk.ca/python/howto/regex/ and that helped a lot. In
addition, Mr. Magnus Lie Hetland coincidentally posted a question on
this list that got answers that helped me out.
(http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...4c56ca66231d7f)

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On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:06:36 +0200, Roman Neuhauser
<neuhauser+python-list#python.org@sigpipe.cz> wrote:

>
> Unfortunately, the python community seems to bathe in the
> misorganized half-do***entation, see e. g.
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=pyth...3919606261&w=2
> especially the reply that (as I read it) suggested reverse
> engineering as a viable alternative to do***entation.


As I read the reply, it was a smart-arse attempt at humour, a *PUN* on
the word "list" (mailing list versus Python list). What I would call
"introspection" (not "reverse engineering") was then suggested.

Moreover, both of the concepts mentioned in the quoted thread
(sequence.index() and the "in" operator) are IMESHO adequately
do***ented.

Do you have any examples of what you regard as "misorganized
half-do***entation"?

Here's a puzzle for you: Where does this list appear? What's missing?

"..., Mullender, Nagata, Ng, Oner, Oppelstrup, ..."

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On 12 Apr 2005 15:06:30 -0700, "runes" <rune.strand@gmail.com> wrote:

>Luckily I found this regex howto:
>http://www.amk.ca/python/howto/regex/ and that helped a lot.

Luckily??? AMK's howto is pointed to by the 3rd paragraph of Section
4.2.1 of the do***entation that you are dissing:

"""
A brief explanation of the format of regular expressions follows. For
further information and a gentler presentation, consult the Regular
Expression HOWTO, accessible from http://www.python.org/doc/howto/.
"""

>In
>addition, Mr. Magnus Lie Hetland coincidentally posted a question on
>this list that got answers that helped me out.
>(http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...4c56ca66231d7f)

The answers (paraphrased) were "read the [Xah-Lee-word]ing manual".
I'm glad that you RTFMed, and that it helped you. You should do so
more often.

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Thank you for being so friendly!

I found the Howto through Google. Somehow I didn't see that link in the
do***entation.

And please do not make any ***umptions about my reading of manuals.

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In comp.lang.perl.misc Xah Lee <xah@xahlee.org> wrote:
> The answer to the questions are resounding yeses, you ****ing ***es.

> paypal me a hundred dollars and i'll rewrite the whole re doc in a few
> hours.

> **** you the standard IT morons. Excuse me for i didn't have time to
> write a more coherent and detailed analysis of the stupidities of the
> re doc.

Don't worry! Very soon, some nice men in white coats will show you
a comfortable room with soft walls in which you can write such
do***entation to your hearts content.

Axel

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I sympathize with you and also think there should be an "add comment" in
the Python do***entation website, so that users could post their code
snippets in the relevant places.



> I found the Howto through Google. Somehow I didn't see that link in the
> do***entation.
>
> And please do not make any ***umptions about my reading of manuals.
>