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Old 05-29-2008   #21
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On May 28, 6:37*pm, pau...@acsalaska.net wrote:
.....
> I cannot conclude definitively that fuel oxygenation caused my
> gasoline tank liner failures. *But manufacturers of 83 and 87 fuel
> tanks could not, I think have anticipated mandatory oxy-fuels and test
> for delayed chemical reactions in their tanks (and altered their
> products if adverse reactions occurred). *IF YOU EXPERIENCE THESE FUEL
> STARVATION SYMPTOMS WHILE USING OXY-FUEL, HAVE THE FUEL FILTER
> INSPECTED CLOSELY IMMEDIATELY, AND SIPHON SAMPLES FROM THE BOTTOM OF
> THE TANK IF INDICATED.
>
> Paul Todd, Anchorage AK


Cars made after about 1985 were required to be made ethanol-tolerant
up to 10%. If your car made later that that encountered an ethanol
problem, you may have cause to sue the maker.

Ben
 
Old 05-29-2008   #22
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"Uncle Ben" <ben@greenba.com> wrote in message
news:12f0ac35-c1f7-4b3d-b5a3-f06507d4f053@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
On May 28, 6:37 pm, pau...@acsalaska.net wrote:
> Cars made after about 1985 were required to be made ethanol-tolerant

up to 10%. If your car made later that that encountered an ethanol
problem, you may have cause to sue the maker.


Well, maybe, but if anyone who is still driving a, say, 89 anything, it
would be far cheaper to simply replace the tank, rather than pay a lawyer
and wait for years for a court date.

SD



 
Old 05-31-2008   #23
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On May 22, 4:53*pm, Uncle Ben <b...@greenba.com> wrote:
> On May 22, 3:56*pm, "Aage M Hollander" <h...@localnet.com> wrote:
>
> > My 1999 Sub legacy St.Wgn(4 cyl,Not an Outback),allows use of 10% Ethanol by
> > the book.Allstations here have 15% ethanol,could I use this ??

>
> I don't know why the car manuals say that. *Brazilian cars all use
> ethanol up to 24% without a problem.
>
> My manual (1999 OBW) says the same thing, but I'm running E60 (60%
> eth) after an after-market conversion and plan to go to E85. I think
> the lawyers make them say that.
>
> Try it and watch your check-engine light. *If it doesn't go on after
> 100 miles, forget about it and enjoy the improved acceleration. *You
> will probably get fewer mpg but more mpd (miles per dollar).
>
> Ben


How to do ethanol right:

http://www.saabbiopower.co.uk/saabBioPower/

OK, Subaru, give us one like that!

Cen
 
Old 08-28-2008   #24
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On 2008-05-22 15:56:13 -0400, "Aage M Hollander" <homa@localnet.com> said:

> My 1999 Sub legacy St.Wgn(4 cyl,Not an Outback),allows use of 10% Ethanol by
> the book.Allstations here have 15% ethanol,could I use this ??


yes, no, and maybe.

ethanol is a good fuel as far as combustion is concerned, and reduces
engine knock.

but it's also corrosive, so the more ethanol in your fuel, the more it
corrodes some of the engine parts (mostly fuel lines and gaskets?). if
the car was designed to work with 10%, probably allowing for
"acceptable" damage to some parts, then using 15% probably won't make
a huge difference, except for some accelerated maintenance. but i
would bet that 85 or 100% would soften or dissolve some plastic parts
to failure.

the right solution is a "conversion kit" which should address the issue
of parts compatibility.

but ethanol contains less energy per litre than gasoline, and requires
more oil to produce, so running on ethanol may be more political than
economic or environmental.

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