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I have a ’97 Subaru Legacy Outback that won’t start after replacing
the head gaskets. A check of the ignition timing shows cyl 1 firing
at ~90 deg before top dead center (it’s supposed to be about 15 deg).
Any ideas on how I could fix this?

I checked cam timing a few dozen times, and made sure the crankshaft
pulley hadn’t slipped on its hub.

Thanks!

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On Aug 11, 8:24 am, Fuzzy <n...@000.com> wrote:
> I have a ’97 Subaru Legacy Outback that won’t start after replacing
> the head gaskets. A check of the ignition timing shows cyl 1 firing
> at ~90 deg before top dead center (it’s supposed to be about 15 deg).
> Any ideas on how I could fix this?
>
> I checked cam timing a few dozen times, and made sure the crankshaft
> pulley hadn’t slipped on its hub.
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
> Posted at author's request, using moderatedhttp://www.AutoForumz.cominterface
> Thread archive:http://www.AutoForumz.com/Ignition-T...acy-Outback-ft...

If this is the first time you installed the timing belt then the
problem is most likely you used the wrong marks. Everyone makes this
mistake the first time.

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On Aug 13, 6:46*pm, johninky <gfl...@kih.net> wrote:
> On Aug 11, 8:24 am, Fuzzy <n...@000.com> wrote:
>
> > I have a ’97 Subaru Legacy Outback that won’t start after replacing
> > the head gaskets. *A check of the ignition timing shows cyl 1 firing
> > at ~90 deg before top dead center (it’s supposed to be about 15 deg).
> > Any ideas on how I could fix this?
>
> > I checked cam timing a few dozen times, and made sure the crankshaft
> > pulley hadn’t slipped on its hub.
>
> > Thanks!
>
> > --
> > Posted at author's request, using moderatedhttp://www.AutoForumz.cominterface
> > Thread archive:http://www.AutoForumz.com/Ignition-T...acy-Outback-ft...
>
> If this is the first time you installed the timing belt then the
> problem is most likely you used the wrong marks. *Everyone makes this
> mistake the first time.

Thanks for the reply.
No, it's about the 6th time I re-installed the new timing belt. I
verified the marks by counting the belt teeth.

I hope I can come up with something, because it looks like I need to
swap the engine out just because the timing is too far advanced. It
would be nice if there was a distributor to adjust...

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On Aug 13, 6:46 pm, johninky <gfl...@kih.net> wrote:
> On Aug 11, 8:24 am, Fuzzy <n...@000.com> wrote:
>
> > I have a ’97 Subaru Legacy Outback that won’t start after replacing
> > the head gaskets. A check of the ignition timing shows cyl 1 firing
> > at ~90 deg before top dead center (it’s supposed to be about 15 deg).
> > Any ideas on how I could fix this?
>
> > I checked cam timing a few dozen times, and made sure the crankshaft
> > pulley hadn’t slipped on its hub.
>
> > Thanks!
>
> > --
> > Posted at author's request, using
> > moderatedhttp://www.AutoForumz.cominterface
> > Thread
> > archive:http://www.AutoForumz.com/Ignition-T...acy-Outback-ft...
>
> If this is the first time you installed the timing belt then the
> problem is most likely you used the wrong marks. Everyone makes this
> mistake the first time.

Thanks for the reply.
No, it's about the 6th time I re-installed the new timing belt. I
verified the marks by counting the belt teeth.

I hope I can come up with something, because it looks like I need to
swap the engine out just because the timing is too far advanced. It
would be nice if there was a distributor to adjust...
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You did rotate the engine before putting on the second belt. Right?

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Thanks for the suggestions!

With the help of a local excellent Subaru mechanic I found that I was
using the wrong mark on the crank sprocket. I mistakenly used the
arrow at the front of the sprocket with the woodruff key to the right,
instead of the marked tooth at the rear with the woodruff key at the
bottom. Fortunately, there was no apparent damage to the valves. It
tapped for a minute or two after starting initially, but I haven’t
heard knocking since.

"Fuzzy" wrote:
> I have a '97 Subaru Legacy Outback that won't start after
> replacing the head gaskets. A check of the ignition timing
> shows cyl 1 firing at ~90 deg before top dead center (it's
> supposed to be about 15 deg). Any ideas on how I could fix
> this?
>
> I checked cam timing a few dozen times, and made sure the
> crankshaft pulley hadn't slipped on its hub.
>
> Thanks!

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On Aug 11, 6:24*am, Fuzzy <n...@000.com> wrote:
> I have a ’97 Subaru Legacy Outback that won’t start after replacing
> the head gaskets. *A check of the ignition timing shows cyl 1 firing
> at ~90 deg before top dead center (it’s supposed to be about 15 deg).
> Any ideas on how I could fix this?
>
> I checked cam timing a few dozen times, and made sure the crankshaft
> pulley hadn’t slipped on its hub.
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
> Posted at author's request, using moderatedhttp://www.AutoForumz.cominterface
> Thread archive:http://www.AutoForumz.com/Ignition-T...acy-Outback-ft...

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Andy <ADdiy55@gmail.com> writes:

> On Aug 11, 6:24*am, Fuzzy <n...@000.com> wrote:
>> I have a 97 Subaru Legacy Outback that wont start after replacing
>> the head gaskets. *A check of the ignition timing shows cyl 1 firing
>> at ~90 deg before top dead center (its supposed to be about 15 deg).
>> Any ideas on how I could fix this?
>>
>> I checked cam timing a few dozen times, and made sure the crankshaft
>> pulley hadnt slipped on its hub.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> --
>> Posted at author's request, using moderatedhttp://www.AutoForumz.cominterface
>> Thread archive:http://www.AutoForumz.com/Ignition-T...acy-Outback-ft...
>
> Hey Nathan,
>
> I had a similar concern with my 2006 Subaru Legacy Outback and I
> subscribed to ALLDATAdiy.com and it has been very useful. I am handy
> and like to do things myself and this subscription gives me diagnosis,
> repair, TBSs, recalls and labor times. I hope you find it useful -
> it's pretty cheap considering the information comes directly from the
> manufacturer.
>
> Check it out - I copied the link below for you.
>
> http://traffic.alldatadiy.com/cgi-bi...0-o4010-c66365
>
> Andy Deil

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Todd H.
2001 Legacy Outback Wagon, 2.5L H-4
Chicago, Illinois USA