Various Topics on Support

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The abortion group is full of zealous pro-choice men, while right
next door, the child support group looks like a he-man woman haters
club.

In the abortion group, a pro-choicer is labeled as every terrible
thing known to man and woman. And yet, in the freely accessible
child support group, a "woman's right to choose" is used as a club
to beat up on women asking about child support.

"DB" <DeeBee@netscape.net> wrote:
> These women just think they can use men as ATM's when they can't
> afford to raise the child on their own.

"Shadow36" <no@no.com> wrote:
> When you decided to keep the child, you took all the
> responsibility to raise and support that child by yourself.

whatamess <mudanzapr@yahoo.com> wrote:
> YOU had the option of having an abortion... why doesn't he have
> the same, when he also didn't want to be a parent at the time and
> told you so?

So why does a pro-choicer zealously support a woman's right to
choose, at the same time he is dead silent when men use pro-choice
as a weapon against women asking about child support?

Do you agree that pro-choice means a woman has all the
responsibility for raising a child since she had the right to choose
abortion instead? Do you not care that your pro-choice argument is
being used to beat up on women asking for child support?

Cry havoc, and let loose the mental gymnasts!




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"John Doe" <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> wrote in

> In the abortion group, a pro-choicer is labeled as every terrible
> thing known to man and woman. And yet, in the freely accessible
> child support group, a "woman's right to choose" is used as a club
> to beat up on women asking about child support.

So because a woman made the poor choice to have unprotected ***, it's OK to
murder the baby or worse yet have the *** partner support her for the next
18 years?

..achr....

"John Doe" <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> The abortion group is full of zealous pro-choice men, while right
> next door, the child support group looks like a he-man woman haters
> club.
>
> In the abortion group, a pro-choicer is labeled as every terrible
> thing known to man and woman. And yet, in the freely accessible
> child support group, a "woman's right to choose" is used as a club
> to beat up on women asking about child support.
>
> "DB" <DeeBee@netscape.net> wrote:
>> These women just think they can use men as ATM's when they can't
>> afford to raise the child on their own.
>
> "Shadow36" <no@no.com> wrote:
>> When you decided to keep the child, you took all the
>> responsibility to raise and support that child by yourself.
>
> whatamess <mudanzapr@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> YOU had the option of having an abortion... why doesn't he have
>> the same, when he also didn't want to be a parent at the time and
>> told you so?
>
> So why does a pro-choicer zealously support a woman's right to
> choose, at the same time he is dead silent when men use pro-choice
> as a weapon against women asking about child support?
>
> Do you agree that pro-choice means a woman has all the
> responsibility for raising a child since she had the right to choose
> abortion instead? Do you not care that your pro-choice argument is
> being used to beat up on women asking for child support?
>
> Cry havoc, and let loose the mental gymnasts!


I think that if the woman wants to raise the child with no interference from
the man, she should support the child in every way by herself--including
financially. If she is willing for the father to have 50/50 shared custody
(default option) or another parenting plan where the 2 of them sit down and
work out how to make sure both parents are fully involved in the child's
life, then child support (including what dad will need to care for the child
when the child is with him) can be worked out at that time. I don't think
that either a man or a woman should get a legal free ride on the back of the
other.

.... ..ghn..

In our last episode,
<z2Hnk.15186$LG4.13472@nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com>,
the lovely and talented DB
broadcast on alt.politics.democrats:


> "John Doe" <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> wrote in

>> In the abortion group, a pro-choicer is labeled as every terrible
>> thing known to man and woman. And yet, in the freely accessible
>> child support group, a "woman's right to choose" is used as a club
>> to beat up on women asking about child support.

> So because a woman made the poor choice to have unprotected ***, it's OK to
> murder the baby

Nobody says it is okay to murder babies.

> or worse yet have the *** partner support her for the next
> 18 years?

He made a poor choice when he decided to have unprotected ***.

--
Lars Eighner <http://larseighner.com/> usenet@larseighner.com
The best way to support the troops right now
is to take them out of hazard's way. -- U.S. Army Lt. Gen. William Odem (Ret.)

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Lars Eighner <usenet@larseighner.com> wrote:

>> or worse yet have the *** partner support her for the next
>> 18 years?
>
>He made a poor choice when he decided to have unprotected ***.

A cl***ic anti-choice argument.

--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net

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"Lars Eighner" <usenet@larseighner.com> wrote in message
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> In our last episode,
> <z2Hnk.15186$LG4.13472@nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com>,
> the lovely and talented DB
> broadcast on alt.politics.democrats:
>
>
>> "John Doe" <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> wrote in
>
>>> In the abortion group, a pro-choicer is labeled as every terrible
>>> thing known to man and woman. And yet, in the freely accessible
>>> child support group, a "woman's right to choose" is used as a club
>>> to beat up on women asking about child support.
>
>> So because a woman made the poor choice to have unprotected ***, it's OK
>> to
>> murder the baby
>
> Nobody says it is okay to murder babies.
>
>> or worse yet have the *** partner support her for the next
>> 18 years?
>
> He made a poor choice when he decided to have unprotected ***.

As did she. Yet, the woman isn't hounded to the ends of the Earth for her
folly now is she? It isn't she who is hunted, has her name plastered around
the world, her name slandered, her credit ruined, her pay taken at the point
of a gun. Nor does the woman face near certain incarceration if she is
indigent and cannot pay.

Equality under the law, my ***.

..achr....

"Lars Eighner" <usenet@larseighner.com> wrote in message
news:slrng9uhr0.9od.usenet@debranded.larseighner.c om...
> In our last episode,
> <z2Hnk.15186$LG4.13472@nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com>,
> the lovely and talented DB
> broadcast on alt.politics.democrats:
>
>
>> "John Doe" <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> wrote in
>
>>> In the abortion group, a pro-choicer is labeled as every terrible
>>> thing known to man and woman. And yet, in the freely accessible
>>> child support group, a "woman's right to choose" is used as a club
>>> to beat up on women asking about child support.
>
>> So because a woman made the poor choice to have unprotected ***, it's OK
>> to
>> murder the baby
>
> Nobody says it is okay to murder babies.
>
>> or worse yet have the *** partner support her for the next
>> 18 years?
>
> He made a poor choice when he decided to have unprotected ***.

So did she. Now *both* of them need to step up and *be parents*--and each
needs to allow the other to be a parent, too. Mom being the parent and dad
paying for it is not the solution. 50/50 joint custody should be the
default position.

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"Lars Eighner" <usenet@larseighner.com> wrote in message
news:slrng9uhr0.9od.usenet@debranded.larseighner.c om...
> In our last episode,
> <z2Hnk.15186$LG4.13472@nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com>,
> the lovely and talented DB
> broadcast on alt.politics.democrats:
>
>
>> "John Doe" <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> wrote in
>
>>> In the abortion group, a pro-choicer is labeled as every terrible
>>> thing known to man and woman. And yet, in the freely accessible
>>> child support group, a "woman's right to choose" is used as a club
>>> to beat up on women asking about child support.
>
>> So because a woman made the poor choice to have unprotected ***, it's OK
>> to
>> murder the baby
>
> Nobody says it is okay to murder babies.

The U.S. Supreme Court said it is okay to murder babies even the most
repulsive late term abortion that can occur during delivery.

>
>> or worse yet have the *** partner support her for the next
>> 18 years?
>
> He made a poor choice when he decided to have unprotected ***.

Making the choice to have unprotected *** is never the same as consenting to
pay child support for 18-21 years. CS is the result of a unilateral
decision by a woman to give birth and seek government sanctions against the
father.

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Bob W <robertg@teleport.com> wrote:
>"Lars Eighner" <usenet@larseighner.com> wrote in message

>> Nobody says it is okay to murder babies.
>
>The U.S. Supreme Court said it is okay to murder babies

Cite?

--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net

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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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> Bob W <robertg@teleport.com> wrote:
>>"Lars Eighner" <usenet@larseighner.com> wrote in message
>
>>> Nobody says it is okay to murder babies.
>>
>>The U.S. Supreme Court said it is okay to murder babies
>
> Cite?

Roe v. Wade

Gonzales v. Carhart