Table Soccer

Our local costco is selling an Harvard NXG Soccer Table, it looks very
Euro and is very sturdy and heavy built, you can see a picture here
at:



This is a new model released by Harvard in 2003. I just brought their
new Harvard Arena Air Hockey table 7' and am very happy with its
sturdiness and play action which is why I'm also interested in this
Harvard Foosball table. I realize from reading in this forum, it may
not be like a Tornado or Dynamo, but I've also read some good things
about Harvard tables, and as far as I can tell, this is a much
improved, new version compared to their old/original versions.

Can anyone comment on this new NXG Table? I'm interested in getting
this but thought I would ask the "experts" out here what they think.
Please email me at (remove nospammy) and
let me know or post here.

Thanks!
George

It depends on what you want the table for...

If you just want a table for a little 'fun in the basement', as long as it's
a solid table and the rods are strong it should be fine. But if you're
looking to learn how to play foos compehostinghostinghostingively you'll need (here's where
the arguments start) a Tornado table, at least the twister model with the
counter balanced men which will run you something like $1000.0 or so.

Shelti's are good as well and cheaper, but not used in compehostinghostinghostingion (Yet).
Some people will tell you to buy a Garlando, it depends on where you live.
They're popular in Europe and Eastern Canada (not sure about the states) but
for my 2 cents they're just a more expensive 'kids table'.

Hope that helps.
"George" <> wrote in message
news: om...
> Our local costco is selling an Harvard NXG Soccer Table, it looks very
> Euro and is very sturdy and heavy built, you can see a picture here
> at:
>
>
>
> This is a new model released by Harvard in 2003. I just brought their
> new Harvard Arena Air Hockey table 7' and am very happy with its
> sturdiness and play action which is why I'm also interested in this
> Harvard Foosball table. I realize from reading in this forum, it may
> not be like a Tornado or Dynamo, but I've also read some good things
> about Harvard tables, and as far as I can tell, this is a much
> improved, new version compared to their old/original versions.
>
> Can anyone comment on this new NXG Table? I'm interested in getting
> this but thought I would ask the "experts" out here what they think.
> Please email me at (remove nospammy) and
> let me know or post here.
>
> Thanks!
> George

(George) wrote in message news:< com>...
> Our local costco is selling an Harvard NXG Soccer Table, it looks very
> Euro and is very sturdy and heavy built, you can see a picture here
> at:
>
>
>
> This is a new model released by Harvard in 2003. I just brought their
> new Harvard Arena Air Hockey table 7' and am very happy with its
> sturdiness and play action which is why I'm also interested in this
> Harvard Foosball table. I realize from reading in this forum, it may
> not be like a Tornado or Dynamo, but I've also read some good things
> about Harvard tables, and as far as I can tell, this is a much
> improved, new version compared to their old/original versions.
>
> Can anyone comment on this new NXG Table? I'm interested in getting
> this but thought I would ask the "experts" out here what they think.
> Please email me at (remove nospammy) and
> let me know or post here.
>
> Thanks!
> George

Don't do it.

The design of the players feet is quite unlike you find on any other table,
and the surface is really slippery, so it is impossible to do many 'standard'
shots. It was obviously designed by someone with no idea how the game
is played.

Basically, the old adage about peanuts and monkeys holds as true for
foosball tables as in any walk of life. You gets what you pays for.

Boris

"George" <> wrote in message
news: om...
> Our local costco is selling an Harvard NXG Soccer Table, it looks very
> Euro and is very sturdy and heavy built, you can see a picture here
> at:
>
>
>
> This is a new model released by Harvard in 2003. I just brought their
> new Harvard Arena Air Hockey table 7' and am very happy with its
> sturdiness and play action which is why I'm also interested in this
> Harvard Foosball table. I realize from reading in this forum, it may
> not be like a Tornado or Dynamo, but I've also read some good things
> about Harvard tables, and as far as I can tell, this is a much
> improved, new version compared to their old/original versions.
>
> Can anyone comment on this new NXG Table? I'm interested in getting
> this but thought I would ask the "experts" out here what they think.
> Please email me at (remove nospammy) and
> let me know or post here.
>
> Thanks!
> George

George,

Looks like a fradulent copy of a Bonzini table with the exception of the
solid rods. Nice job by Harvard to confuse the consumer. I'll be looking
furhter into this product.

Alan Cribbs

It looks like a nice toy. It's a little to big for the shelf though.

"George" <> wrote in message
news: om...
> Our local costco is selling an Harvard NXG Soccer Table, it looks very
> Euro and is very sturdy and heavy built, you can see a picture here
> at:
>
>
>
> This is a new model released by Harvard in 2003. I just brought their
> new Harvard Arena Air Hockey table 7' and am very happy with its
> sturdiness and play action which is why I'm also interested in this
> Harvard Foosball table. I realize from reading in this forum, it may
> not be like a Tornado or Dynamo, but I've also read some good things
> about Harvard tables, and as far as I can tell, this is a much
> improved, new version compared to their old/original versions.
>
> Can anyone comment on this new NXG Table? I'm interested in getting
> this but thought I would ask the "experts" out here what they think.
> Please email me at (remove nospammy) and
> let me know or post here.
>
> Thanks!
> George

>his is a new model released by Harvard in 2003.

Alan, et al...
This table is so new I don't think any of us have played on it?

I think what we need to do is reverse this process and come up with a
questionaire when novices are asking for advice on what table to buy?

Instead of answering there questions with "stock" answers will simply post ten
question ourselves they will answer and from that we can better answer or they
can make a decision on weather to buy or not to buy.

For example...
(1) Do you plan on playing in compehostinghostinghostingive foosball touranments?
(2) Is cost an consideration?
(3) Is this for work or home?
(4) etc...

You get the gist. Then depending on how they answer we won't seem like were
steering them wrong or just plain callous when we call other tables toys and
worse.

Just a thought.

PHIL KENNEDY

Here is the stock questionnaire I use:



VEGA72MAN wrote:
>>his is a new model released by Harvard in 2003.
>
>
> Alan, et al...
> This table is so new I don't think any of us have played on it?
>
> I think what we need to do is reverse this process and come up with a
> questionaire when novices are asking for advice on what table to buy?
>
> Instead of answering there questions with "stock" answers will simply post ten
> question ourselves they will answer and from that we can better answer or they
> can make a decision on weather to buy or not to buy.
>
> For example...
> (1) Do you plan on playing in compehostinghostinghostingive foosball touranments?
> (2) Is cost an consideration?
> (3) Is this for work or home?
> (4) etc...
>
> You get the gist. Then depending on how they answer we won't seem like were
> steering them wrong or just plain callous when we call other tables toys and
> worse.
>
> Just a thought.
>
> PHIL KENNEDY

I recently recieved this table as a gift. Its constructed pretty well
for a cheap table. You can brush phostinghostinghosting and shoot a roll over. But the
playing field is far from true and it has no leg levelers. So the ball
always wants to roll one way or another. And if it rolls to the wall,
it's staying there because it lacks any kind of side strips. Id say
it's a good buy for $200 and you'll like it if you don't expect too
much or plan to play in any organized events. I had been out of
foosball for a few years and then I recieved this table. Within a week
I decided to sell it and buy a 30th anniversay Tornado coin op. I
found it hard to play on after having played on the Tornado table.
Good luck.

Good points Bruce,
It's difficult for me to recommend this table over that one, etc. simply
because all foos tables have a lot of fun to offer. At the same time tho, I
wish I could explain the habits you learn on inferrior tables will come back to
haunt you if you ever decide to compete at this game out side your home or
office.

PHIL