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Here is from the white house site:

"The issue facing our nation and the world is the extension of the war
on terror to places like Iraq. Prior to September the 11th, there was
apparently no connection between a place like Iraq and terror. Oh,
sure, he had run some terrorist networks out of his country, and that
was of concern to us. But it was very difficult to link a terrorist
network and Saddam Hussein to the American soil. As a matter of fact,
it was very difficult to link any attack on the American soil, because
prior to September the 11th, we were confident that two oceans could
protect us from harm.

The world changed on September the 11th. Obviously, it changed for
thousands of people's lives for whom we still mourn. But it changed
for America, and it's very important that the American people
understand the change. We are now a battle ground. We are vulnerable.
Therefore, we cannot ignore gathering threats across the ocean. It
used to be that we could pick or choose whether or not we would become
involved. If we saw a threat, it may be a threat to a friend, in which
case we would be involved, but never did we realize the threat could
be directed at the American people..."

The entire speech at this link:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...0030209-1.html


I actually wasn't looking for this. I was looking to see whether he
had said the danger is imminent. In fact he said we would not wait
until it was imminent.

And yes, my Avalon does suck.

..o.. .. ..ori..

On 5 Feb 2004 17:44:55 -0800, beguna@mindspring.com (Arthur Begun)
wrote:


>I actually wasn't looking for this. I was looking to see whether he
>had said the danger is imminent. In fact he said we would not wait
>until it was imminent.
>

Unlike the democrats that let people attack America (USS Cole etc etc)
without doing their job.

Because of the left (ie Demoncrats) being cowards and afraid to
confront terrorists we ended up with 9/11.

We now have a President that is not a weak kneed traitor and the War
on Terror is being taken to the terrorists everywhere in the world.

One of my boys is transporting Seals into areas you may never hear
about. I would venture to say that there are a number of terrorists
***uming jungle temperature...

....Art....remember 9/11???

We are at WAR, Art...



Scott in Florida

..T ..c..

Arthur Begun wrote:

> Here is from the white house site:
>
> "The issue facing our nation and the world is the extension of the war
> on terror to places like Iraq. Prior to September the 11th, there was
> apparently no connection between a place like Iraq and terror....

Ark, your just like a dose of the clap, keep coming back. Havent you
sold the Avalon yet? Hey, I see Chrysler has taken Dahlmer into the
hole. Did anyone else see that?


Anyway, Yes, Iraq and terror are directly connected. Abu Nidal was
actually killed by Saddam in Iraq, for those of you in Rio Linda or in
Arts house, he was a terrorist. So to say there was no connection, its a
lie.

..oth.. ..m

On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 01:58:36 +0000, Scott in Florida wrote:

> On 5 Feb 2004 17:44:55 -0800, beguna@mindspring.com (Arthur Begun)
> wrote:
>
>
>>I actually wasn't looking for this. I was looking to see whether he
>>had said the danger is imminent. In fact he said we would not wait
>>until it was imminent.
>>
>
> Unlike the democrats that let people attack America (USS Cole etc etc)
> without doing their job.
>
> Because of the left (ie Demoncrats) being cowards and afraid to
> confront terrorists we ended up with 9/11.
>
> We now have a President that is not a weak kneed traitor and the War
> on Terror is being taken to the terrorists everywhere in the world.
>
> One of my boys is transporting Seals into areas you may never hear
> about. I would venture to say that there are a number of terrorists
> ***uming jungle temperature...
>
> ...Art....remember 9/11???
>
> We are at WAR, Art...
>
>
>
> Scott in Florida

It is this flag waving rhetoric that caused me to chastise the fund raiser
from the RNC. To try to pin a national tragedy on a particular party is
ludicrous and to suggest opposition to Bush's stances is traitorous,
even if they might highlight "reasonable concerns" is equally ludicrous.

Perhaps the fact that we defend nations and prop up monarchies who offer
their people no hope of sharing in the wealth that we cart off might be a
root cause of 9/11.

..o.. .. ..ori..

On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 03:25:48 GMT, Another Tom <sg7188@snet.net> wrote:

>On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 01:58:36 +0000, Scott in Florida wrote:
>
>> On 5 Feb 2004 17:44:55 -0800, beguna@mindspring.com (Arthur Begun)
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I actually wasn't looking for this. I was looking to see whether he
>>>had said the danger is imminent. In fact he said we would not wait
>>>until it was imminent.
>>>
>>
>> Unlike the democrats that let people attack America (USS Cole etc etc)
>> without doing their job.
>>
>> Because of the left (ie Demoncrats) being cowards and afraid to
>> confront terrorists we ended up with 9/11.
>>
>> We now have a President that is not a weak kneed traitor and the War
>> on Terror is being taken to the terrorists everywhere in the world.
>>
>> One of my boys is transporting Seals into areas you may never hear
>> about. I would venture to say that there are a number of terrorists
>> ***uming jungle temperature...
>>
>> ...Art....remember 9/11???
>>
>> We are at WAR, Art...
>>
>>
>>
>> Scott in Florida
>
>It is this flag waving rhetoric that caused me to chastise the fund raiser
>from the RNC. To try to pin a national tragedy on a particular party is
>ludicrous and to suggest opposition to Bush's stances is traitorous,
>even if they might highlight "reasonable concerns" is equally ludicrous.
>
>Perhaps the fact that we defend nations and prop up monarchies who offer
>their people no hope of sharing in the wealth that we cart off might be a
>root cause of 9/11.

Oh?

LOL

You mean the coward prez we had for 8 years made the terrorists quake
in their boots?

Give Me A Break!!!

Can you remember Clintoon kissing Y***er Arafat's ***? One of the
biggest terrorists around?

The demoncratic party is not totally responsible, but their policies
are!

Now we have an idiot running for Prez that thinks he can solve
terrorism by taking them to court!!!

ROFLMAO (if it wasn't so damned serious you demoncrats would be
funny).


Scott in Florida

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On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 03:32:26 +0000, Scott in Florida wrote:

> On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 03:25:48 GMT, Another Tom <sg7188@snet.net> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 01:58:36 +0000, Scott in Florida wrote:
>>
>>> On 5 Feb 2004 17:44:55 -0800, beguna@mindspring.com (Arthur Begun)
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I actually wasn't looking for this. I was looking to see whether he
>>>>had said the danger is imminent. In fact he said we would not wait
>>>>until it was imminent.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Unlike the democrats that let people attack America (USS Cole etc etc)
>>> without doing their job.
>>>
>>> Because of the left (ie Demoncrats) being cowards and afraid to
>>> confront terrorists we ended up with 9/11.
>>>
>>> We now have a President that is not a weak kneed traitor and the War
>>> on Terror is being taken to the terrorists everywhere in the world.
>>>
>>> One of my boys is transporting Seals into areas you may never hear
>>> about. I would venture to say that there are a number of terrorists
>>> ***uming jungle temperature...
>>>
>>> ...Art....remember 9/11???
>>>
>>> We are at WAR, Art...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Scott in Florida
>>
>>It is this flag waving rhetoric that caused me to chastise the fund raiser
>>from the RNC. To try to pin a national tragedy on a particular party is
>>ludicrous and to suggest opposition to Bush's stances is traitorous,
>>even if they might highlight "reasonable concerns" is equally ludicrous.
>>
>>Perhaps the fact that we defend nations and prop up monarchies who offer
>>their people no hope of sharing in the wealth that we cart off might be a
>>root cause of 9/11.
>
> Oh?

Yes

>
> LOL



>
> You mean the coward prez we had for 8 years made the terrorists quake
> in their boots?

Scott, what is THE CAUSE, Clinton not dealing with them is not a cause.

>
> Give Me A Break!!!

Scott this is not a valid rebuttal that supports your ***ertions.

>
> Can you remember Clintoon kissing Y***er Arafat's ***? One of the
> biggest terrorists around?

I can also remember the 200+ Marines being killed in Beruit under the
Reagan administration; Republicans did a good job at handling that; that
problem is certainly solved. USS Stark et al. I wonder why Hussein
wasn't finished off after Gulf War I? Apparently another lapse of
Republican judgement.

>
> The demoncratic party is not totally responsible, but their policies
> are!

Their policies are "totally responsible?" Hyperbole at best and it tends
to lessen the effectiveness of any legitimate points you may have.

>
> Now we have an idiot running for Prez that thinks he can solve
> terrorism by taking them to court!!!
>
> ROFLMAO (if it wasn't so damned serious you demoncrats would be
> funny).
>
>
> Scott in Florida

Scott, in your infinite partisanship you ***umed I am a democrat; i am a
moderate Republican I don't use 1) Big Business, 2) The Christian Right 3)
Neo-Conservatives to do my thinking.

..ar..

Scott in Florida wrote:
> On 5 Feb 2004 17:44:55 -0800, beguna@mindspring.com (Arthur Begun)
> wrote:
>
>
>> I actually wasn't looking for this. I was looking to see whether he
>> had said the danger is imminent. In fact he said we would not wait
>> until it was imminent.
>>
>
> Unlike the democrats that let people attack America (USS Cole etc etc)
> without doing their job.
>
> Because of the left (ie Demoncrats) being cowards and afraid to
> confront terrorists we ended up with 9/11.
>
> We now have a President that is not a weak kneed traitor and the War
> on Terror is being taken to the terrorists everywhere in the world.
>
> One of my boys is transporting Seals into areas you may never hear
> about. I would venture to say that there are a number of terrorists
> ***uming jungle temperature...
>
> ...Art....remember 9/11???
>
> We are at WAR, Art...
>
>
>
> Scott in Florida

Liberal saps fail to accept that fact and the terrorists play on that sappy
mentality.

..ar..

Another Tom wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 01:58:36 +0000, Scott in Florida wrote:
>
>> On 5 Feb 2004 17:44:55 -0800, beguna@mindspring.com (Arthur Begun)
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I actually wasn't looking for this. I was looking to see whether he
>>> had said the danger is imminent. In fact he said we would not wait
>>> until it was imminent.
>>>
>>
>> Unlike the democrats that let people attack America (USS Cole etc
>> etc) without doing their job.
>>
>> Because of the left (ie Demoncrats) being cowards and afraid to
>> confront terrorists we ended up with 9/11.
>>
>> We now have a President that is not a weak kneed traitor and the War
>> on Terror is being taken to the terrorists everywhere in the world.
>>
>> One of my boys is transporting Seals into areas you may never hear
>> about. I would venture to say that there are a number of terrorists
>> ***uming jungle temperature...
>>
>> ...Art....remember 9/11???
>>
>> We are at WAR, Art...
>>
>>
>>
>> Scott in Florida
>
> It is this flag waving rhetoric that caused me to chastise the fund
> raiser from the RNC. To try to pin a national tragedy on a
> particular party is ludicrous and to suggest opposition to Bush's
> stances is traitorous,
> even if they might highlight "reasonable concerns" is equally
> ludicrous.
>
> Perhaps the fact that we defend nations and prop up monarchies who
> offer their people no hope of sharing in the wealth that we cart off
> might be a root cause of 9/11.\

NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING can justify what happened on 9/11, so spare me
that ****ing liberal guilt trip, ***hole.

..T ..c..

Another Tom wrote:
>
> It is this flag waving rhetoric that caused me to chastise the fund raiser
> from the RNC.


LOL, phony. So how did you take it when we had the buddist monks, and
Charlie Tree, Riyadis and Chicoms giving to the democrat party? Kinda
creepy when a communist country contributes to your party.

I'm sure you were all over them chastizing the DNC, right?

..T ..c..

Another Tom wrote:
>
> I can also remember the 200+ Marines being killed in Beruit under the
> Reagan administration; Republicans did a good job at handling that; that
> problem is certainly solved. USS Stark et al. I wonder why Hussein
> wasn't finished off after Gulf War I? Apparently another lapse of
> Republican judgement.

I remeber the Iranians holding a bunch of Americans hostage (back in the
Jimmy Carter era) for 400+ days, as soon as Reagan was innagurated,
miraculously, all were released. Strange, huh?


>
> Scott, in your infinite partisanship you ***umed I am a democrat; i am a
> moderate Republican I don't use 1) Big Business, 2) The Christian Right 3)
> Neo-Conservatives to do my thinking.


Wow , me either, except I'm not a moderate (fence setter, wishy washy,
changes with wind, unsure of a position) I'm a conservative republican.
>