Various Topics on Toyota

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"cyber" <cyber@space.com> wrote in message
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> Heard a few good things about Prius and hybrid cars on general from
> reviews and from people here. I'm thinking about getting one too.
> But then not everyone is going for it. Since I don't know about
> hybrid cars much, I'd like to know why you're not buying one?
>
> I drove a 4-cylinder Camry CE before and I felt the car was slow to
> speed up at stop signs. My friend, not an expert on hybrid cars, says
> if a Camry is too slow for me, I shouldn't go for hybrid cars since
> they take even longer to speed up. True?

Cuz they want too much bloody money for it

Natalie


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Coyoteboy wrote:

>> 'Cause I hate the environment and I want to kill everyone as quickly as I
>> can.
>
>
> MAybe, or maybe 'cos theyre as ugly as my ***.

Round, with four doors?

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"Philip®" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net.invalid> spake unto the m***es in
news:Aax1c.20496$aT1.3210@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net:

> In news:Xns94A1C114F735Eteggeratistop@207.14.113.17,
> Tegger® <teggeratistopdotcom@changetheobvious.invalid> being of
> bellicose mind posted:
>> cyber <cyber@space.com> spake unto the m***es in
>> news:vuoc40lj1j7rvm1khqtqujef8evkebrloi@4ax.com:
>>
>> > Heard a few good things about Prius and hybrid cars on general
>> > from reviews and from people here. I'm thinking about getting
>> > one too. But then not everyone is going for it. Since I don't
>> > know about hybrid cars much, I'd like to know why you're not
>> > buying one?
>>
>>
>> 'Cause I hate the environment and I want to kill everyone as
>> quickly as I can.
>
> Tegger... I've just acquired an EXCELLENT environmental ***ault
> vehicle. An old DIESEL powered Datsun truck! LOL I'm gonna go
> trolling for some unsuspecting hybrid to get next to at a traffic
> light with their window rolled down so I can sit next to them and rev
> the engine. Hehehhehheee!


A man after my own heart...


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"Wickeddoll®" <wickeddoll1958nofeckingspam@yahoo.com> spake unto the m***es
in news:c26980$1ouksd$1@ID-125536.news.uni-berlin.de:

>
> "cyber" <cyber@space.com> wrote in message
> news:vuoc40lj1j7rvm1khqtqujef8evkebrloi@4ax.com...
>> Heard a few good things about Prius and hybrid cars on general from
>> reviews and from people here. I'm thinking about getting one too.
>> But then not everyone is going for it. Since I don't know about
>> hybrid cars much, I'd like to know why you're not buying one?
>>
>> I drove a 4-cylinder Camry CE before and I felt the car was slow to
>> speed up at stop signs. My friend, not an expert on hybrid cars, says
>> if a Camry is too slow for me, I shouldn't go for hybrid cars since
>> they take even longer to speed up. True?
>
> Cuz they want too much bloody money for it


And if it weren't for the federal subsidy, they would cost several thousand
more.

Sort of amazes me that people seem to think that spending an extra five or
ten grand on the car is worth saving a thousand on the gas. /:^|

Hybrids are a political statement, nothing more.


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On 4 Mar 2004 12:15:41 GMT, "Tegger®"
<teggeratistopdotcom@changetheobvious.invalid> wrote:

>"Wickeddoll®" <wickeddoll1958nofeckingspam@yahoo.com> spake unto the m***es
>in news:c26980$1ouksd$1@ID-125536.news.uni-berlin.de:
>
>>
>> "cyber" <cyber@space.com> wrote in message
>> news:vuoc40lj1j7rvm1khqtqujef8evkebrloi@4ax.com...
>>> Heard a few good things about Prius and hybrid cars on general from
>>> reviews and from people here. I'm thinking about getting one too.
>>> But then not everyone is going for it. Since I don't know about
>>> hybrid cars much, I'd like to know why you're not buying one?
>>>
>>> I drove a 4-cylinder Camry CE before and I felt the car was slow to
>>> speed up at stop signs. My friend, not an expert on hybrid cars, says
>>> if a Camry is too slow for me, I shouldn't go for hybrid cars since
>>> they take even longer to speed up. True?
>>
>> Cuz they want too much bloody money for it
>
>
>And if it weren't for the federal subsidy, they would cost several thousand
>more.
>
>Sort of amazes me that people seem to think that spending an extra five or
>ten grand on the car is worth saving a thousand on the gas. /:^|
>
>Hybrids are a political statement, nothing more.

But it's cheaper than Camry. At Toyota.com, the base price for Prius
(4-Dr Gas/Elec ECVT) is $19,995. The base price for Camry SE
4-cylinder 4-speed Automatic is $20,750. If their performance and
comfort being equal, I'd go for Prius.

..cha.. ..humach..

"Philip®" wrote:

> In news:Xns94A1E0F031EB6teggeratistop@207.14.113.17,
> Tegger® <teggeratistopdotcom@changetheobvious.invalid> being of
> bellicose mind posted:
> > "Coyoteboy" <coyoteboyuk@hotmail.com> spake unto the m***es in
> > news:c25s5g$gi5$1@sparta.btinternet.com:
> >
> > > > 'Cause I hate the environment and I want to kill everyone as
> > > > quickly as I can.
> > >
> > > MAybe, or maybe 'cos theyre as ugly as my ***.
> >
> > Is your *** ugly? I'll take your word for it.
>
> Those pants DO make your butt look big.

LOL! Bless you, Philip; just when we thought you had no sense of humor
:_>

..cha.. ..humach..

> I've just acquired an EXCELLENT environmental ***ault
> > vehicle. An old DIESEL powered Datsun truck! LOL I'm gonna go
> > trolling for some unsuspecting hybrid to get next to at a traffic
> > light with their window rolled down so I can sit next to them and rev
> > the engine. Hehehhehheee!
>
> A man after my own heart...

"After", in the sense of "attacking"? Yes indeed, since particulates
contribute to cardio-pulmonary disease.

..cha.. ..humach..

cyber wrote:

> Heard a few good things about Prius and hybrid cars on general from
> reviews and from people here. I'm thinking about getting one too.
> But then not everyone is going for it. Since I don't know about
> hybrid cars much, I'd like to know why you're not buying one?

I am. The five month wait hasn't been all bad.


>
>
> I drove a 4-cylinder Camry CE before and I felt the car was slow to
> speed up at stop signs. My friend, not an expert on hybrid cars, says
> if a Camry is too slow for me, I shouldn't go for hybrid cars since
> they take even longer to speed up. True?

Not true. The 2004 Prius has much better low-speed torque and
acceleration than does the Camry. But it does take about 10 sec to go
from 0 to 60 MPH.

You might as well wait for the 2005 model year and consider in addition to
the Prius the forthcoming hybrid SUVs from Lexus and Ford. They should
have noticeably better acceleration.

..cha.. ..humach..

badgolferman wrote:

> cyber wrote:
>
> > I drove a 4-cylinder Camry CE before and I felt the car was slow to
> > speed up at stop signs. My friend, not an expert on hybrid cars, says
> > if a Camry is too slow for me, I shouldn't go for hybrid cars since
> > they take even longer to speed up. True?
>
> I got to use one for a couple of weeks from the dealer while they rebuilt
> the engine of the car they had just sold me. They are too small for my
> tastes. There is no trunk room

You must have had a first-generation Prius, not a 2004? The 2004 has more
interior room than a Camry.


> and the cost of replacement batteries scares
> me away. Not to mention all the fancy electronics technology that will be
> subjected to climatic extremes.

Eh. The battery cost will undoubtedly drop a lot before the 8 year/100,000 mile
warranty expires. It gets plenty cold in Japan where Prius models have been in
use for six years. Has anyone heard of reliability problems?

..cha.. ..humach..

> >> Heard a few good things about Prius and hybrid cars on general from
> >> reviews and from people here. I'm thinking about getting one too.
> >> But then not everyone is going for it. Since I don't know about
> >> hybrid cars much, I'd like to know why you're not buying one?
> >
> > Cuz they want too much bloody money for it
>
> And if it weren't for the federal subsidy, they would cost several thousand
> more.

And "truck" sales would drop if their purchase price couldn't be written off.

>
>
> Sort of amazes me that people seem to think that spending an extra five or
> ten grand on the car is worth saving a thousand on the gas. /:^|

For now, it's not their fuel economy so much as their low pollution. But let's
check back in three years or so, when gas costs $3 per gallon.


>
> Hybrids are a political statement, nothing more.

Pretty much, yes. Politics is more than voting for President.