Various Topics on Videocard ATI

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The demo ran smooth over here.

Cheap AM37 motherboard, Athlon XP 2400+, 256mb PC2100, Sapphire
9800Pro, Altec TruePower 430watt power source, Catalyst 3.8 driver.

Leslie


On Mon, 7 Sep 2009 18:41:11 -0400, "Waz" <wazungy@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>I recently tried running the homeworld 2 demo.
>It complained about finding an obsolete radeon driver (catalyst 3.5) but I
>was able to complete the training level.
>The game crashed during the animated sequence prior to starting a level. It
>crashed just after the hyperdrive core is installed in mothership.
>Anyhow, this is not the problem.
>
>I decided to make everything happy and install the newest radeon driver.
>Uninstalled 3.5, installed 3.7.
>The homeworld demo now comes up as a black screen when I start it. There is
>some music but that's all I get.
>Alt/Tab will cause a split second view of what must be the main menu before
>I get dumped to the desktop.
>C****ing on the taskbar icon for homeworld either gives a blank screen or a
>very very diagonally distorted (with several bits of mouse pointer all over
>the place) of the main menu.
>
>Is this the driver, or the demo's fault?
>
>Asus A7v8x, 512 Meg of 333
>radeon 9500 pro.
>
>Thanks
>
>

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Hi

As far as I'm aware there isn't a Catalyst 3.8 (typo?). Try the Cat. 3.6
drivers. I'm using the 3.6 with a 9700 non-pro and things are smooth but
there's quite alot of *banding* (looks like 16 bit and not 32 bit rendering)
on the backgrounds.

Moreover, I remember reading on one of the HW forums about a problem with
the demo and the Cat. 3.7 drivers (although I'm not sure I'd call is a
universal issue).

HTH

Bill L
"Leslie Smith" <msmith2@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
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> The demo ran smooth over here.
>
> Cheap AM37 motherboard, Athlon XP 2400+, 256mb PC2100, Sapphire
> 9800Pro, Altec TruePower 430watt power source, Catalyst 3.8 driver.
>
> Leslie
>
>
> On Mon, 7 Sep 2009 18:41:11 -0400, "Waz" <wazungy@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> >I recently tried running the homeworld 2 demo.
> >It complained about finding an obsolete radeon driver (catalyst 3.5) but
I
> >was able to complete the training level.
> >The game crashed during the animated sequence prior to starting a level.
It
> >crashed just after the hyperdrive core is installed in mothership.
> >Anyhow, this is not the problem.
> >
> >I decided to make everything happy and install the newest radeon driver.
> >Uninstalled 3.5, installed 3.7.
> >The homeworld demo now comes up as a black screen when I start it. There
is
> >some music but that's all I get.
> >Alt/Tab will cause a split second view of what must be the main menu
before
> >I get dumped to the desktop.
> >C****ing on the taskbar icon for homeworld either gives a blank screen or
a
> >very very diagonally distorted (with several bits of mouse pointer all
over
> >the place) of the main menu.
> >
> >Is this the driver, or the demo's fault?
> >
> >Asus A7v8x, 512 Meg of 333
> >radeon 9500 pro.
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >
>

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Ah! You're right. Sorry about that. They are the 3.7s. You're right-
typo.

Leslie

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"Waz" <wazungy@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> I recently tried running the homeworld 2 demo.
> It complained about finding an obsolete radeon driver (catalyst 3.5) but
I
> was able to complete the training level.

Are you sure you have the latest version of DirectX (9.0b)? You do need
both the latest video drivers and most recent version of DirectX to play
the demo.

-Mike

..z

Thanks to everyone who replied.

I suppose if there IS a problem with the cat. 3.7 drivers I would have heard
it from you guys by now.
Now that I have 3.7 installed, I am NOT going backwards to 3.6 to get the
demo working.
If it ran with 3.5 and direct X 9.0a (well, I did finish the training level
didn't I?) then it should at least do that with cat 3.7 and DX 9.0a. Things
should NOT get worse (like getting a black screen when I try to run the
program).

I'll wait and see if some sort of fix comes out soon.
I will not consider buying a game if the demo does not work on my system.

Thanks again,

Waz

"Leslie Smith" <msmith2@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:0h7olvks7bm383gfjsmjtju9f61f0u4atn@4ax.com...
> The demo ran smooth over here.
>
> Cheap AM37 motherboard, Athlon XP 2400+, 256mb PC2100, Sapphire
> 9800Pro, Altec TruePower 430watt power source, Catalyst 3.8 driver.
>
> Leslie
>
>
> On Mon, 7 Sep 2009 18:41:11 -0400, "Waz" <wazungy@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> >I recently tried running the homeworld 2 demo.
> >It complained about finding an obsolete radeon driver (catalyst 3.5) but
I
> >was able to complete the training level.
> >The game crashed during the animated sequence prior to starting a level.
It
> >crashed just after the hyperdrive core is installed in mothership.
> >Anyhow, this is not the problem.
> >
> >I decided to make everything happy and install the newest radeon driver.
> >Uninstalled 3.5, installed 3.7.
> >The homeworld demo now comes up as a black screen when I start it. There
is
> >some music but that's all I get.
> >Alt/Tab will cause a split second view of what must be the main menu
before
> >I get dumped to the desktop.
> >C****ing on the taskbar icon for homeworld either gives a blank screen or
a
> >very very diagonally distorted (with several bits of mouse pointer all
over
> >the place) of the main menu.
> >
> >Is this the driver, or the demo's fault?
> >
> >Asus A7v8x, 512 Meg of 333
> >radeon 9500 pro.
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >
>

..m

On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 18:55:12 -0400, Waz wrote:

> Thanks to everyone who replied.

> I suppose if there IS a problem with the cat. 3.7 drivers I would have heard
> it from you guys by now.
> Now that I have 3.7 installed, I am NOT going backwards to 3.6 to get the
> demo working.
> If it ran with 3.5 and direct X 9.0a (well, I did finish the training level
> didn't I?) then it should at least do that with cat 3.7 and DX 9.0a. Things
> should NOT get worse (like getting a black screen when I try to run the
> program).

> I'll wait and see if some sort of fix comes out soon.
> I will not consider buying a game if the demo does not work on my system.

> Thanks again,

> Waz

I just tried it with the 3.7 drivers on my Radeon 9500 pro and had no
problems whatsoever. (It looked like a pretty neat game too).

Sam


> "Leslie Smith" <msmith2@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:0h7olvks7bm383gfjsmjtju9f61f0u4atn@4ax.com...
>> The demo ran smooth over here.
>>
>> Cheap AM37 motherboard, Athlon XP 2400+, 256mb PC2100, Sapphire
>> 9800Pro, Altec TruePower 430watt power source, Catalyst 3.8 driver.
>>
>> Leslie
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 7 Sep 2009 18:41:11 -0400, "Waz" <wazungy@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>
>>>I recently tried running the homeworld 2 demo.
>>>It complained about finding an obsolete radeon driver (catalyst 3.5) but
> I
>>>was able to complete the training level.
>>>The game crashed during the animated sequence prior to starting a level.
> It
>>>crashed just after the hyperdrive core is installed in mothership.
>>>Anyhow, this is not the problem.
>>>
>>>I decided to make everything happy and install the newest radeon driver.
>>>Uninstalled 3.5, installed 3.7.
>>>The homeworld demo now comes up as a black screen when I start it. There
> is
>>>some music but that's all I get.
>>>Alt/Tab will cause a split second view of what must be the main menu
> before
>>>I get dumped to the desktop.
>>>C****ing on the taskbar icon for homeworld either gives a blank screen or
> a
>>>very very diagonally distorted (with several bits of mouse pointer all
> over
>>>the place) of the main menu.
>>>
>>>Is this the driver, or the demo's fault?
>>>
>>>Asus A7v8x, 512 Meg of 333
>>>radeon 9500 pro.
>>>
>>>Thanks

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"Waz" <wazungy@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> If it ran with 3.5 and direct X 9.0a (well, I did finish the training
level
> didn't I?) then it should at least do that with cat 3.7 and DX 9.0a.
Things
> should NOT get worse (like getting a black screen when I try to run the
> program).

As I said previously - upgrade to DX 9.0b, then uninstall/reinstall the cat
3.7 drivers. You need BOTH 9.0b and cat 3.7.

-Mike

..z

"Leslie Smith" <msmith2@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:0h7olvks7bm383gfjsmjtju9f61f0u4atn@4ax.com...
> The demo ran smooth over here.
>
> Cheap AM37 motherboard, Athlon XP 2400+, 256mb PC2100, Sapphire
> 9800Pro, Altec TruePower 430watt power source, Catalyst 3.8 driver.
>
> Leslie
>
>
> On Mon, 7 Sep 2009 18:41:11 -0400, "Waz" <wazungy@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> >I recently tried running the homeworld 2 demo.
> >It complained about finding an obsolete radeon driver (catalyst 3.5) but
I
> >was able to complete the training level.
> >The game crashed during the animated sequence prior to starting a level.
It
> >crashed just after the hyperdrive core is installed in mothership.
> >Anyhow, this is not the problem.
> >
> >I decided to make everything happy and install the newest radeon driver.
> >Uninstalled 3.5, installed 3.7.
> >The homeworld demo now comes up as a black screen when I start it. There
is
> >some music but that's all I get.
> >Alt/Tab will cause a split second view of what must be the main menu
before
> >I get dumped to the desktop.
> >C****ing on the taskbar icon for homeworld either gives a blank screen or
a
> >very very diagonally distorted (with several bits of mouse pointer all
over
> >the place) of the main menu.
> >
> >Is this the driver, or the demo's fault?
> >
> >Asus A7v8x, 512 Meg of 333
> >radeon 9500 pro.
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >
>
Tried very hard, un-installing catalyst 3.7 and re-installing. And DirecxtX
9.0b, well forget about un-installing that!

Back to square one.
I restored a backup of my system taken before I installed directX 9.0b and
the catalyst 3.7 drivers.
The homeworld demo runs well with catalyst 3.5 and directX 9.0a.

I'll leave it like that for now.

..

another option altogether is the Omega Drivers. I just redid my 2.0gig XP
Pro machine with my 9500 Pro video card. My best experience happened. Win
XP did not load its own version of an ATI driver like it did in the past
rebuilds. That left me with a perfect system of XP and no ATI driver stuff
to conflict with the first video card to drop in. So, I searched the web
and got the Cat 3.6 drivers and DX 9.0b. The games were fine, but the
DirectX 9 seemed to be the one that is causing trouble with compatability in
my case. Not with the hardware, but the software. It seemed to mess a lot
with my multimedia applications (prior to rebuild). I also made a restore
point when the machine was first loaded. I tried the the Cat 3.6 and DX9.
Then I tried the same with the addition of the Omega Drivers (latest
version). The omega drivers made a nice difference. It installs over the
existing drivers and compliments them. My Return to Castle Wolfenstein and
Command & Conquer Generals both run the smoothest they ever did. Its funny
how the equipment is the same, but a simple driver can make all the
difference. I stayed away from the Omega drivers at first as I did not
know how they would work with others. So far, its nothing but sweetness.

SL
"Leslie Smith" <msmith2@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Ah! You're right. Sorry about that. They are the 3.7s. You're right-
> typo.
>
> Leslie
>
>
>

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"Waz" <wazungy@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> Tried very hard, un-installing catalyst 3.7 and re-installing. And
DirecxtX
> 9.0b, well forget about un-installing that!

Sorry that didn't work for you. This seems strange to me because the demo
wouldn't even start for me without cat 3.7 and DX9.0b.

-Mike