Various Topics on Volkswagen

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"Rev Turd Fredericks" <turdfred2@catholic.org> wrote in message
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> Right. So when Rush Limbaugh says the Chinese are drilling for oil off the
> coast of Florida and then further uses that lie as a basis for his
> opinion, that is an embellished lie.

you, again, fail to see what i am saying... you are calling it a lie after
the fact... you can't do that... if the information was reasonable and
reported at true, why would it be an embellished lie? you can't be this
obtuse, you have to be pretending.


> When **** Cheny issues a press statement that the Chinese are not drilling
> for oil off the coast of Cuba/Florida as he previously stated it is a
> fact.

and this retraction had to happen AFTER the release of news that it was
true?


> I quoted the fox news report, which was taken from the ***ociated press. I
> only quoted the fox report because if I quoted some other report I may be
> accused of some sort of bias, but the AP report is cited in hundreds of
> places. There are other sources of information available, not the least of
> which is simply looking it up on google earth where the resolution is
> enough to show oil rigs close to shore, of which there are none off cuba,
> but the information is not really complete. What made me skeptical about
> the story in the first place was
> http://www.heartland.org/Article.cfm?artId=19479
> an excerpt: "I saw all kinds of wells with Chinese writing on them just
> south of the Keys," Leonard Gropper, a Marathon, Florida retiree, told the
> June 20 Orlando Sun-Sentinel.
>
> This is of course not true for a number of reasons. If you have ever stood
> on the shore and looked out to sea, you would know why.
>

again, your hindsight can't be a reason to condemn anyone.... I don't give
two ****s about Rush or his show, just as i don't give two ****s what you
think of him nor his show... but your bias is very clear and clouds what
judgement you have left.

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"Rev Turd Fredericks" <turdfred2@catholic.org> wrote in message
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> Joey Tribiani wrote:
>> "Rev Turd Fredericks" <turdfred2@catholic.org> wrote in message
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>> > Certainly not me. However, just be aware that there are forces out
>> there
>>> who are trying to manipulate your opinion and they don't have your best
>>> interests in mind.
>>
>> absolutely... lots of folks whole-heartedly believe many credible sources
>> that aren't always out there to just keep you informed...<G>
> Like Fox news and Rush Limbaugh :-)

and many others..

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"Rev Turd Fredericks" <turdfred2@catholic.org> wrote in message
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> I admit I have an agenda against Limbaugh, but it's because he lies, not
> because he often has opinions that run counter to mine. As far as oil
> drilling, it should probably be up to the people of Florida to decide, but
> based on credible information and not hysteria that Cuba, using a Chinese
> surrogate, is stealing the oil out from under them.
>
> Back in the 1980's I used to listen to Limbaugh all the time but his
> anti-everything rhetoric, half truths, hypocrisies and outright lies
> became tiresome. I think he is a very smart man, but has prostituted
> himself for ratings by appealing to the lowest common denominator.

i was wondering if you actually realized how intelligent the man is.... he
has managed to keep himself, and his show, in the political conversations
for years.... his ratings are high because those that like him tune in, and
those that hate him tune in to have something to rant about... ratings keep
him on the air, not his opinions...

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"Rev Turd Fredericks" <turdfred2@catholic.org> wrote in message
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> Who is not respecting someone's right to an opinion here?

you...



seems if you feel someone's "opinion" is wrong, or based on something you
don't believe, then you will feverishly try to change their mind by showing
them the truth as you believe it(opinion).... opinions are beliefs, not
always based on truth nor even reality.... it is what it is...